The CSA keeps badgering me to go back to work, but work doesnt pay, suggestions pleas

g-sharp_major

DX2 wrote: »

Your only aim is to try and destroy the PWC and really not giving a dam about the innocent party in all of this the children..

That is not how the OP comes accross, he was cheated unlawfully and I commend him for his ability to get the government ombudsman to sort it out.

Clearly the OP wants whats best for his children, he doesnt give a toss about the PWC, why should he? she brought this on all by herself.

g-sharp_major

DX2 wrote: »

What how you did your best to avoid paying child support for your kids. That's what you call the best chance in life :eek: shocking daddy.

You need to read a little more. It will show the OP has actually overpaid the CSA.

gillypkk

yes he was overcharged. but then he quit work so he wouldnt have to pay anymore. if he had carried on working and not paid then he would more than likely have accrued arrears amassing to thousands.

end of the day he shouldnt be grudging paying anything to his own kids. he certainly shouldnt be trying to claw anything back off them. the CSA took the money and passed it onto the PWC and they will have to take it off her again to pay him back.

anguk

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Ive read the HMRC award letter again, and it does say CTC is awarded to my partners name. Thats why I have never put it on the MEF, it only asks for MY income and declaring partners income is not compulsory.

Have a read of my post #218, wouldnt that still apply anyway?

If you want, I can scan the HMRC letter showing who it is addressed, and to whom the CTC award is made. I really cant see how the CSA can infer anything different.

It doesn't matter whose name is on the award letter it's still classed as a household income, therefore your income too, so the CSA will take it into account and you should have put the amount you get on any forms you fill in for the CSA. If you haven't you may find that they come after you for with-holding information about your income.

Unless of course your partner has claimed the CTC herself without naming you on the claim but if she has done that it would be a fraudulent claim as you are living together as man and wife so the claim should be joint.

Another point - the CTC is supposed to be paid to the main carer, you have said you're a stay at home Dad and look after your child while your partner works so you are the main carer and the CTC should be paid to you, not your partner.

Regarding post #218 - that wouldn't apply for CTC because it's not just your partner's income it's household income so yours too.

I'll stress again, the CTC is not your partners money, it's your money too unless your partner has fraudulently claimed as a single person.

Marisco

g-sharp_major wrote: »

You need to read a little more. It will show the OP has actually overpaid the CSA.

If this is the case, then he will get it back. It will take a while (like everything with the CSA) The way I read it is (might be wrong!!!) that he is on CSA 1, and he had a dispute about travelling expenses. Whilst he was trying to sort it, they continued to take the same amount off him, resulting in the overpayment, when he proved they were in the wrong. Apparently, he "won" his case, but now refuses to pay anything. That is what people are annoyed about.

Because he is on CSA 1 it's not as straighforward as CSA 2, with that, at least you know it's going to be 20% of income - including CTC. All WTC is included if he earns more than his gf, half if they earn the same, and nowt if she earns more than him. I'm not sure if CTC and WTC is included as income on CSA 1. The best thing he can do is try and persuade his ex to go on to CSA 2, and Happy has shown him how he will be better off if he gets a job.

If he doesn't want the CSA involved, then the best thing he can do is to try and get his ex to accept "cash in hand" on the proviso he gets her to sign a receipt every week/month that it's for CM. Whichever route he goes down, he should be paying something for his children. There is a CSA calculator somewhere, he should go on that, see what his liability is, and even if he only pays half/three quarters of it, at least the kids are getting something, as opposed to nothing they are getting now. And if the ex has any sense, she'll co operate!!

gillypkk

anguk wrote: »

It doesn't matter whose name is on the award letter it's still classed as a household income, therefore your income too, so the CSA will take it into account and you should have put the amount you get on any forms you fill in for the CSA. If you haven't you may find that they come after you for with-holding information about your income.

Unless of course your partner has claimed the CTC herself without naming you on the claim but if she has done that it would be a fraudulent claim as you are living together as man and wife so the claim should be joint.

Another point - the CTC is supposed to be paid to the main carer, you have said you're a stay at home Dad and look after your child while your partner works so you are the main carer and the CTC should be paid to you, not your partner.

Regarding post #218 - that wouldn't apply for CTC because it's not just your partner's income it's household income so yours too.

I'll stress again, the CTC is not your partners money, it's your money too unless your partner has fraudulently claimed as a single person.

exceptionally good post! well done!

so either he is witholding income info from the CSA or they are fraudulently claiming CTC. this thread gets better and better!!!:rotfl:

Transformer

James you said you think the motive of your ex is a csa only route, hhhmmm, could that be she cant bear to deal with your childish behaviour, anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Some times csa takes away the stress and hastle from some pwc, till they grow up.

Some perhaps never grow up!!!!!!!

Transformer

gillypkk wrote: »

exceptionally good post! well done!

so either he is witholding income info from the CSA or they are fraudulently claiming CTC. this thread gets better and better!!!:rotfl:

Could be wrong and hope wrong, but something I read earlier alerted me too:eek:

I mean up to op what does, but something does not seem right!!!!!!

Too often refering to his partners money as her money, you see it is your money as a couple. I do hope for your sake all is properly declared!!!!!!!:cool:

We can only go on what you type, your behaviour comes across to me as avoiding responsibility, who knows how far that goes.

Be careful op.:money:

Marisco

Transformer wrote: »

James you said you think the motive of your ex is a csa only route, hhhmmm, could that be she cant bear to deal with your childish behaviour, anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Some times csa takes away the stress and hastle from some pwc, till they grow up.

Some perhaps never grow up!!!!!!!

The problem seems to be though, that she thinks she'll get more money off CSA 1, and won't migrate to CSA 2!!! Maybe if James promises to get a job and pay his dues if she goes to CSA 2, he might get somewhere. As it is, he refuses to work and she gets nowt!! Surely even the most hard faced PWC, can see CSA 2 is a better deal?

gillypkk

Transformer wrote: »

Could be wrong and hope wrong, but something I read earlier alerted me too:eek:

I mean up to op what does, but something does not seem right!!!!!!

Too often refering to his partners money as her money, you see it is your money as a couple. I do hope for your sake all is properly declared!!!!!!!:cool:

We can only go on what you type, your behaviour comes across to me as avoiding responsibility, who knows how far that goes.

Be careful op.:money:

i spotted that one too. what a wonderful role model to shirk his responsibilities, potentially commit fraud and make continious sexist remarks to the opposite sex.!