The CSA keeps badgering me to go back to work, but work doesnt pay, suggestions pleas

Marisco

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Ive read the HMRC award letter again, and it does say CTC is awarded to my partners name. Thats why I have never put it on the MEF, it only asks for MY income and declaring partners income is not compulsory.

Have a read of my post #218, wouldnt that still apply anyway?

If you want, I can scan the HMRC letter showing who it is addressed, and to whom the CTC award is made. I really cant see how the CSA can infer anything different.

James, it doesn't matter whose name is on the envelope. If you have a child together, then the CTC is counted as joint income. Granted, it's not fair as I don't think they should take from one, to give to the other, especially as the PWC will be getting CTC herself. But that's the way it is, and there is sod all you can do about it, unless you decide not to claim CTC. That is the only way your ex won't get a cut of it.

TBH, the best thing you can do, is try to persuade your ex to go over to CSA 2, work on the angle that on CSA 2 she will get something, but if she persists in being awkward and stays on CSA 1, then she'll get nowt. Once the CSA is sorted, then go to court for access, and they are more likely to be more sympathetic if you are at least making an effort to pay something.

JamesP1976

Under CS1 I didnt think CTC had any bearing, only on CS2. Is that right?

I have tried negotiating with my ex, but I think her motive is a CSA-only route.

I spoke to the solicitor who was on the fraud case, and he mentioned that the events shown in my post #23 could take effect and my partner does not want to risk family security over it. This is afforded by the CSA willingness to cheat.

If I pay cash, the CSA may disregard it (solicitors advice) and i may be charged twice. Solicitor also said its the PWC that chooses to use the CSA so let her get on with it. Ive done everything I can.

I cannot pay BACS because I dont have a bank account, I dont have an income so dont need one anyway. I carry a 2nd-named credit card because UK bank accounts are unsafe with the CSA following a threat to embezzle money.

I have been to court, I have a contact order, but she refuses to comply with it. Too much debate and out of scope.

JamesP1976

gillypkk wrote: »

i think your girlfriend should be claiming child benefit for 2 children not 1!!!

We tried this and cannot claim for children who dont live with us.

As for being insulting, you have contributed nothing useful to me in this thread. You have only made impertinent snide comments.

If its not corn you are collecting, then its forum clubcard points.

gillypkk

JamesP1976 wrote: »

We tried this and cannot claim for children who dont live with us.

As for being insulting, you have contributed nothing useful to me in this thread. You have only made impertinent snide comments.

If its not corn you are collecting, then its forum clubcard points.

i was meaning for you!

you actually tired to claim for kids not living with you? are you serious?! you really are beyond belief! you dont want to work so you dont have to pay for your children yet you want to claim benefits to keep for yourself that is meant to give your children a better life.

you actually are a complete muppet!

and ive given you the best advice on this thread - GET OFF YOUR LAZY BACKSIDE AND WORK TO PROVIDE FOR YOUR CHILDREN YOU ARE BLESSED TO HAVE AND STOP LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE MONEY OUT OF THEM!!!

Marisco

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Under CS1 I didnt think CTC had any bearing, only on CS2. Is that right?

I have tried negotiating with my ex, but I think her motive is a CSA-only route.

I spoke to the solicitor who was on the fraud case, and he mentioned that the events shown in my post #23 could take effect and my partner does not want to risk family security over it. This is afforded by the CSA willingness to cheat.

If I pay cash, the CSA may disregard it (solicitors advice) and i may be charged twice. Solicitor also said its the PWC that chooses to use the CSA so let her get on with it. Ive done everything I can.

I cannot pay BACS because I dont have a bank account, I dont have an income so dont need one anyway. I carry a 2nd-named credit card because UK bank accounts are unsafe with the CSA following a threat to embezzle money.

I have been to court, I have a contact order, but she refuses to comply with it. Too much debate and out of scope.

I think CTC is counted as income on 1 and 2. If she wants to go down the CSA route, then tell her she will be better off on 2, it's still CSA, but a better "version" of it. Never give her cash in lieu, as the CSA will disregard it, and make you pay again, unless she is willing to sign a receipt every time you give her money, to say it is for the purpose of child maintenance.

As to the court orders, this I think is where they go wrong. If they started penalising women who don't comply, with possibly a prison sentence, then it wouldn't take long, IMO before the others started complying, when they see the court are actually doing something about it. At the minute, they can say "up yours" and nothing is done!! When they actually start enforcing contact orders, then maybe the compliance figures will go up!!

But whichever way you cut it James, you really should be paying something for your children, sort out the maintenance, then go for the contact. I totally agree with maintenance being linked to contact, especially if it's just for sheer bloody mindedness, but the system is what it is, and till it changes (hopefully sooner rather than later) then you have to work within it. I would still work on the ex to try and get her to migrate to 2, emphasise that she will get 20% of wages when you start work. Maybe the £ signs will win the day

JamesP1976

gillypkk wrote: »

i was meaning for you!

you actually tired to claim for kids not living with you? are you serious?! you really are beyond belief! you dont want to work so you dont have to pay for your children yet you want to claim benefits to keep for yourself that is meant to give your children a better life.

you actually are a complete muppet!

and ive given you the best advice on this thread - GET OFF YOUR LAZY BACKSIDE AND WORK TO PROVIDE FOR YOUR CHILDREN YOU ARE BLESSED TO HAVE AND STOP LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE MONEY OUT OF THEM!!!

Im not the one who monetised the children. The PWC did.

PWC choose not to work, does that make them lazy too?

Just because the shoe is on the other foot does not give you the right to disrupt my enquiry on CSA and nuisance telephone calls.

Marisco

If your enquiry is about calls from the CSA, then just change your number and don't give it to anyone you don't want calling you!!!

JamesP1976

Marisco wrote: »

I think CTC is counted as income on 1 and 2. If she wants to go down the CSA route, then tell her she will be better off on 2, it's still CSA, but a better "version" of it. Never give her cash in lieu, as the CSA will disregard it, and make you pay again, unless she is willing to sign a receipt every time you give her money, to say it is for the purpose of child maintenance.

Let me speak with my partner, its her money and her CTC application. This affects her too.

I would actually like to go back to work, its getting the CSA to comply with its rules that is a real drag.

Thanks to those who contributed positive advice, I may well be owned a lot more by the CSA than I originally thought. Council tax as well as travel to work costs, (which I was entitled).

We could be up for another bumper windfall, and my children will be the first to benefit.

gillypkk

JamesP1976 wrote: »

Let me speak with my partner, its her money and her CTC application. This affects her too.

I would actually like to go back to work, its getting the CSA to comply with its rules that is a real drag.

Thanks to those who contributed positive advice, I may well be owned a lot more by the CSA than I originally thought. Council tax as well as travel to work costs, (which I was entitled).

We could be up for another bumper windfall, and my children will be the first to benefit.

based on everything you have written in this thread thus far i and many others will have a very very hard time believing that statement!

JamesP1976

Marisco wrote: »

If your enquiry is about calls from the CSA, then just change your number and don't give it to anyone you don't want calling you!!!

We have done that, and now its our landline they are calling. The CSA call under a pretence it is a personal call. They are too devious so I just want communication in writing.

Someone (was it you?) suggested using the Protection from Harassment Act 1997, and I swiped a template off the internet. Im not sure if the CSA has to comply, its really something to stop nuisance debt collectors.