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The CSA keeps badgering me to go back to work, but work doesnt pay, suggestions pleas

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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    I think I am someone so under your statement of anyone with children I would be included. I don't earn anything fortunately my OH does and we don't get even a tenner a week which is how your post reads. It was perfectly clearin what it said ven i it was incorrect. I'm not trying to pick an argument but I think it is misleading because your post suggests CTC isn't means tested and that clearly isn't correct.
    Of course CTC are means tested why else would I say those who don't work get more, those on low income gets some and those on a high income if lucky get a tenner. If CTC wasn't means tested then everyone would get the same a little like CB don't you think.
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  • Sidekick_2
    Sidekick_2 Posts: 144 Forumite
    JamesP1976 wrote: »
    Yes. Why should that prevent him claiming CTC just because he lives elsewhere?

    I also dont get why the CSA charge liability on CTC what is claimed against an income that is not even his.

    I'll make enquiries. I dont have much experience in dealing with tax credits. My partner is more clued up on financials.

    As I said, I don't believe you have done your calculations correctly.
    CTC would be included in your assessment for the purposes of the child maintenance. However travel to work costs, council tax and an allowance for the child living with you would be taken off. Csa 1 calculations are difficult to work out without all the information. You have merely worked out 30% of your net income so your calculations are incorrect.

    To answer your original post, you have missed the above points.
    Teacher 1+2 = 3
    CSA 1+2 = 30,000
  • JamesP1976 wrote: »
    Im lost.

    CTC is for the child living in the household, now its not.

    Your household get tax credits, which are split into working tax credits and child tax credits. They are awarded jointly to you and your partner, therefore it is an assessable income that you have. WTC wouldn't be used, as you're not working which makes your partner the primary earner, so the CSA would assess you on the child tax credits that you receive.
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    JamesP1976 wrote: »
    Sounds odd. I can now see why PWCs want to become PWC's

    I think linking maintenance and contact is long overdue. I'll write to Maria Miller and offer encouragement to consider the proposal. But I am still under the belief that tax credits should be available to all working parents.

    A PWC here.......and a PWC who did not want to be one.

    Not all PWC are out to get all they can, not all NRP are clambering to see their children...some PWC's agree and negotiate, some NRP's couldn't care a jot about seeing their children.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Dave101t
    Dave101t Posts: 4,157 Forumite
    work obviously does pay, but not enough for the scum of the world to be 'bovvered' to get of their backsides.
    Target Savings by end 2009: 20,000
    current savings: 20,500 (target hit yippee!)
    Debts: 8000 (student loan so doesnt count)

    new target savings by Feb 2010: 30,000
  • anguk
    anguk Posts: 3,412 Forumite
    JamesP1976 wrote: »
    Yes. Why should that prevent him claiming CTC just because he lives elsewhere?

    I also dont get why the CSA charge liability on CTC what is claimed against an income that is not even his.

    I'll make enquiries. I dont have much experience in dealing with tax credits. My partner is more clued up on financials.
    You're living as a couple therefore there is no "his or hers", everything is joint. The CTC is yours so the CSA will take it into account as income.

    Your tax credit claim is joint, it's actually paid to your partner but it's still joint (actually you have said you look after your child so really it should be paid to you as main carer).

    I must admit I do think it's daft that CTC is paid for the child/children that live with you but the CSA count it as income when working out maintenance for the children who don't live with you. Give it to one child in one household but take some of it away to give to other children in another household (especially daft when the other household is likely to be claiming CTC themselves for those children).

    But daft as it is those are the rules.
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  • gillypkk
    gillypkk Posts: 581 Forumite
    this thread gets even more unbelievable!!

    first the OP wont return to work to pay CSA for his kids coz he wont be better off by as much as he wants and now he wants to claim CTC for the kids he doesnt even pay for?!?!

    :wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:
    Countdown to Discharge Is On!

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  • JamesP1976
    JamesP1976 Posts: 122 Forumite
    anguk wrote: »
    Your tax credit claim is joint, it's actually paid to your partner but it's still joint (actually you have said you look after your child so really it should be paid to you as main carer).

    Ive read the HMRC award letter again, and it does say CTC is awarded to my partners name. Thats why I have never put it on the MEF, it only asks for MY income and declaring partners income is not compulsory.

    Have a read of my post #218, wouldnt that still apply anyway?

    If you want, I can scan the HMRC letter showing who it is addressed, and to whom the CTC award is made. I really cant see how the CSA can infer anything different.
  • JamesP1976
    JamesP1976 Posts: 122 Forumite
    Your household get tax credits, which are split into working tax credits and child tax credits. They are awarded jointly to you and your partner, therefore it is an assessable income that you have. WTC wouldn't be used, as you're not working which makes your partner the primary earner, so the CSA would assess you on the child tax credits that you receive.


    Your advice is contradictory.

    You say I am assessed for CTC (which in any event, is awarded to my partner) for a child that lives with me and paid to the primary carer named on the form

    Now you imply that same CTC is paid to the CSA for children that dont live with me.
  • gillypkk
    gillypkk Posts: 581 Forumite
    JamesP1976 wrote: »
    I will run out of corn at this rate!
    stop being so damn derogatory and insulting!! you came here for advice you have been given it and yet you feel it acceptable to throw around childish insults and call people names!

    i think your girlfriend should be claiming child benefit for 2 children not 1!!!
    Countdown to Discharge Is On!

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