Problem with father!!!!

Addiscomber

I used to work in the Immigration Department. This scenario is ringing alarm bells for me. However the law changed in 2005 and it is now much more difficult for people subject to immigration control to marry and stay here. You should be aware though that some women in Russia are happy to come and marry for a better life than they can achieve at home and it may not be an out and out scam as such. There are people who will offer to run background checks on the women met on websites etc, and they probably are scams, as money has to be paid up front, so no come back if no report is forthcoming.

The law changed so that people with very short limited leave to remain can no longer marry in a Registry Office without satisfying certain requirements. Details here http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/marriages/acivilmarriage/index.asp

Basically she will have to return to Russia to obtain the appropriate Visa. Have a look at http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/documents/idischapter8/section1.pdf?view=Binary
you need to scroll some way down to section 3.

duncans-mum_2

I think you are right to be a little cautious, but like has previously been said, just see how it goes. Make sure your father knows he can come to you with anything, and just show a general interest. Also like said above, if she married him, it isn't too hard to get family over here. Remember, your Dad will have been lonely for a year and the attention he is getting from this woman can blinker him into not seeing any danger signs, so this is where you come in .

I friend of mine met and married a Russian girl when he was working over there, and they were married with two kids, no problems....... but she did then bring her Mother over here (who was married for 1 year only until she was allowed to stay here) and also her sister, again whom got married then subsequently went off with another woman.

I sincerely hope this is a genuine relationship and that your dad will be happy, but being a little bit (quietly) cynical won't do any harm until you are proved otherwise.

jonesMUFCforever

What are the chances that a close family member will suddenly become ill in the near future and this lady will need to send money back to Russia for medical treatment - but of course she won't have access to her account in this country and poor dad will be guilt tripped to stump up for now with a promise of repayment soon?

Lillibet_2

Alarm bells are an understatement to me!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Personally I think I'd be booking a "suprise" family holiday to anywhere but Russia to inclde my dad to start the day after she is due to go home, so that if she does go it is a chance to get her out of his head (and he is away from being able to communicate with her too easily for a while so no chance to cement the relationship) and also make sure that in the event of her staying on she can't tag along (no extra guests, unable to extend her visa to another contry etc). I'm sorry to sound harsh but in all likelyhood when she looks at your dad she is seeing a UK meal ticket (and possible an inheritenance?).

OK, I know a hopliday probably isn't very pratical, but I can't help thinking SCAM SCAM SCAM!

Good luck

mountainofdebt

I have to admit I would be very cynical as well.

Basically my FIL got together with a (british) woman shortly after my MIL died and whilst hubby was glad to see his dad happy again, I just felt there was something wrong about her - don't ask me why I just did.

Anyway to cut a long story short, when he died alot of things came out which upset hubby as it transpired she had taken advantage of my FIL something my FIL had woken up to shortly before he died and hence why his will was written the way it was.

This was further borne out by the fact that she didn't pass on information which would have saved alot of aggro for hubby and his sister as well as being so grief striken that a month after FIL died she was out with another man!

Morty_007

vippymini wrote:

Apparently hes talking to the english chap today who married her best friend 3 years ago!

Sorry, but this wouldn't put my mind at rest any further...it just smells of an even bigger scam involving someone from England as well, meaning they may know the legal system and what can and can't be done! Unless your dad knows this guy from before he met said lovely lady, i'd be very careful about the truth of anything said.

Just what sprang to mind when I read this

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!"

Hugs and good luck

margaretclare

culpepper wrote:

A month is long enough for Dad to do something daft re her financial situation (even marriage).
So she lost her money on the train in Russia and presumably managed to get on the plane and transport herself to England and his doorstep for free (sorry to sound cynical).
She leaves her mother and son in Russia but if she became a UK citizen they would be legally allowed to come and live here so it is not much of a sacrifice for the long term gains.
Of course she may be a really lovely person and honest as the day is long!

And I have just seen a squadron of airborne pigs fly past the window on this chilly December morning!

Margaret

Penny_Watcher

Savvy_Sue wrote:

May I commend A short history of tractors in Ukrainian?

That rang bells with me too - I'm part was through, so I don't know how it finishes.

Penny_Watcher

vippymini wrote:

Apparently hes talking to the english chap today who married her best friend 3 years ago!

OK, now this would really worry me. It seems to have scam written all over it. I know gentlemen of a certain age 'buy' brides from Thailand over the internet, but at least they know what they're getting into.

Good Luck (boy, am I glad I'm not you at the moment )

elaine373

Penny_Watcher wrote:

OK, now this would really worry me. It seems to have scam written all over it. I know gentlemen of a certain age 'buy' brides from Thailand over the internet, but at least they know what they're getting into.

Good Luck (boy, am I glad I'm not you at the moment )

Maybe he does know what he is `getting himself into`. Like some-one else said,some Women come over to make a better life and for all we know they may have discussed this. As long as he fully understands any situation, it really is his business.Only if its a fraudulant situation should some-one else get involved.(Not always easy to tell i know). Every-one is entitled to companionship and `happiness` and maybe they are both realistic to know that this is a shorter and more honest way to arrange this.I would personally keep a close eye on things.