Arrrgghhh so angry, for those who say just get a job stacking shelves

jimmy2times

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

Even that profession is pretty much finished. Why pay for the services of some disease ridden junkie when you could get the same product from some student down the local student union for the price of a couple of WKDs. All about the money saving.

Do you have much success picking up hot teenage girls in student bars, then? :beer:
You lucky !!!!!!!!!!

Thanet62

Recently applied to ASDA for a a temporary position. The I received the following yesterday the whole process was handled on-line and at no time did I attend or see anybody:-

"Thanks very much for attending our recent Asda Magic assessment centre and interview to join our team here at Asda. We were very impressed with your skills and attitude and the great news is that we’d really like to offer you a position.
The not so great news is that unfortunately at the moment we don’t have any vacancies available that match your skills and requirements.

All is not lost though – and we hope you’ll bear with us. For the next 6 months, we will keep your details on our system and as soon as a suitable position comes up we’ll contact you directly to discuss it. As you have already attended a Magic assessment centre and been through the interview process, you won’t need to go through this again, we’ll just invite you into the store for a quick chat about the role. Rest assured you’re right at the front of the queue when a new vacancy does come up.

We’re sorry that we haven’t got something for you straight away. Thank you for your interest in Asda – we do hope to speak with you soon. If you have any questions or queries, please do not hesitate to contact us on "

Managing expectations eh!

LadyMissA

WelshPaul wrote: »

When they say your over qualified they mean they know your only going to stick with the job as long as it takes for you to find a better one!

They don't want the hassle of giving you the job just to re advertise the position three or four months down the road because something more suited to your needs came along.

They are then left with advertising your old job, shifting through god knows how many application forms, interviewing candidates and then all the paper trail that goes with it. Doing that every few months for a toilet cleaning position is a pain! lol

that happened in the past to me at 2nd interview stage and I never got the jobs only to see them both readvertised a few mths later and the agency who put me forward for both said the people who they took on couldn't do the job so they left.

flyingguy

I've been reading this thread with some interest - I was recently looking for work as I'm a contractor so constantly have to keep an eye out on what's out there. I don't believe there is any shortage of jobs, one only has to look on the job websites at how many new jobs are added each day. I think the problem is, and many don't like to admit it, there are not enough people with the right skills. Yes people complain they can't get a job in Tesco etc even when they are over qualified and evidently there are a lot of over qualified people out of work. I'm not knocking anyone for wanting to, or doing these jobs, but if I train one day to be a bus driver, and suddenly they announce that no bus drivers are required, do I grumble about it or retrain in something else? If over qualified people cannot get jobs in supermarkets etc, that's possibly because those type of roles are better suited to people with less qualifications? Surely that has to be the way the job market works? If the supermarkets were staffed by out of work professionals, where is someone without any qualifications going to get a job? I'm a qualified pilot, but I cannot get into an airline at the moment, so I'm doing I.T contracting as I cannot afford to wait for the perfect job. There are many more like me, some working as cabin crew, some driving minibuses and cleaning aircraft out. There are jobs out there, you just have to be prepared to do it and possibly learn some new skills.

SueC_2

We use the term 'over-qualified' quite liberally, when perhaps what we should be saying is 'wrongly-qualified'.

Having a PhD in Philosophy does not 'qualify' you ('over' or otherwise) to work in a supermarket.

What qualifies you to work in a supermarket is being able to demonstrate customer service skills, physical ability, good numeracy levels, the ability to cope with repetitive work etc etc.

Why do we think that the PhD qualification is 'better' than the second set of qualifications? Surely it all depends on what you want to use your qualification for.

starryshell

SueC wrote: »

We use the term 'over-qualified' quite liberally, when perhaps what we should be saying is 'wrongly-qualified'.

Having a PhD in Philosophy does not 'qualify' you ('over' or otherwise) to work in a supermarket.

What qualifies you to work in a supermarket is being able to demonstrate customer service skills, physical ability, good numeracy levels, the ability to cope with repetitive work etc etc.

Why do we think that the PhD qualification is 'better' than the second set of qualifications? Surely it all depends on what you want to use your qualification for.

It isn't always the experienced person or degree holder who thinks they're overqualified. It is the employers. They think that because you've gone the distance to get a degree or have significant professional experience, that you won't be happy at the stacking shelves (or whatever) job they're offering. I'm an experienced professional and have interviewed for secretarial jobs - and have been told more than once that they're afraid I'm going to be bored and leave because I'm overqualified for the position.

SueC_2

starryshell wrote: »

It isn't always the experienced person or degree holder who thinks they're overqualified. It is the employers. They think that because you've gone the distance to get a degree or have significant professional experience, that you won't be happy at the stacking shelves (or whatever) job they're offering. I'm an experienced professional and have interviewed for secretarial jobs - and have been told more than once that they're afraid I'm going to be bored and leave because I'm overqualified for the position.

I fully understand the concept, I was just saying it may be more correct to think of yourself as wrongly qualified rather than over-qualified. Your 'professional' qualifications are no better than the perceived 'lesser' secretarial qualifications if they don't get you the job that you're applying for!

donnajunkie

flyingguy wrote: »

I've been reading this thread with some interest - I was recently looking for work as I'm a contractor so constantly have to keep an eye out on what's out there. I don't believe there is any shortage of jobs, one only has to look on the job websites at how many new jobs are added each day. I think the problem is, and many don't like to admit it, there are not enough people with the right skills. Yes people complain they can't get a job in Tesco etc even when they are over qualified and evidently there are a lot of over qualified people out of work. I'm not knocking anyone for wanting to, or doing these jobs, but if I train one day to be a bus driver, and suddenly they announce that no bus drivers are required, do I grumble about it or retrain in something else? If over qualified people cannot get jobs in supermarkets etc, that's possibly because those type of roles are better suited to people with less qualifications? Surely that has to be the way the job market works? If the supermarkets were staffed by out of work professionals, where is someone without any qualifications going to get a job? I'm a qualified pilot, but I cannot get into an airline at the moment, so I'm doing I.T contracting as I cannot afford to wait for the perfect job. There are many more like me, some working as cabin crew, some driving minibuses and cleaning aircraft out. There are jobs out there, you just have to be prepared to do it and possibly learn some new skills.

there are many types of jobs people would love to train for but college isnt affordable for them and employers dont train people they only want ready qualified people. i think many people even in their 50's would do an apprenticeship with a company if they could.

shop-to-drop

Tesco's application doesn't even ask for qualifications. I work there and have a degree but it wasn't an issue as they weren't interested in my qualifications.

Mistral001

Yes it is all about supply and demand. Too many pilots? Then there has to be some pilots without jobs. Too many doctors? Then of course there has to be some unemployed doctors. That is life. Move on and get over it.

Too many shelf-stackers? Then there has to be some unemployed shelf-stackers. Move on and get over it.