My Interest rate gamble pays off again!

JanCee

DervProf wrote: »

Where's the fun in that ?

Aha! In a nutshell, I think you both enjoy winding each other up, just don't let it get out of hand. People are much more combative on the internet than they would be in real life. In real life you would probably :beer:. Or would that be a step too far?

RenovationMan

JanCee wrote: »

Aha! In a nutshell, I think you both enjoy winding each other up, just don't let it get out of hand. People are much more combative on the internet than they would be in real life. In real life you would probably :beer:. Or would that be a step too far?

DervProf seems to be wound up by me simply being on this board. I get wound up by his stalking antics. Simple as that.

geneer

RenovationMan wrote: »

You couldn't be more wrong. I created this thread and some others in order to give DervProf, geneer and Graham enough rope to hang themselves and they have done just that.
...blah blah blah....
Geneer and especially graham are simply vultures.

Yes, we certainly fell into you clever trap RM.
Having a forum acknowledge your palpable need for validation,
gosh, you certainly showed us eh. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

What an extraordinary lack of self awareness you have.

I kind of like you myself.
You're mostly harmless, a bit pompous.
Prone to hilarious logical contortions when caught being a bit of a hypocrite.

All good fun.

JonnyBravo

RenovationMan wrote: »

You couldn't be more wrong. I created this thread and some others in order to give DervProf, geneer and Graham enough rope to hang themselves and they have done just that.

Agree. Just what I said barring some arguing over semantics.

RenovationMan wrote: »

I get confused with your own posts JB. I have been nothing but friendly with you, I was actually genuinely concerned when you posted about your possible job loss and I was also genuinely delighted when you posted your good news about surviving. I don't think I deserve the above, but oh well those are the knocks.

The showing of concern over someones situation and expecting to be immune to stick poking from that person aren't mutually exclusive. Or at least they aren't in my book.
I admire your mortgage progress and have often commented so. I think you are right to air it, it is a discussion board where the successful can be celebrated and problems shared. Of course some view this as boasting (and sometimes it is.... not just you... me and most others, but success should be shared and whilst large organisations embrace this I think mainstream UK has yet to embrace it)
So don't fret RM. It was simply me poking you with a stick much as you were poking others. Perhaps with more of an eye on a smile with it though?

RenovationMan wrote: »

Geneer and especially graham are simply vultures.

Hmmm.... you see, you're taking it too seriously. GD isn't a vulture. Granted he likes to roll around in the negative of any situation but a vulture? No.
As for gman, he's just a less imaginative troll. He likes to think of himself as a level above and of course does sometimes poke a well aimed stick but it's mostly trite naysaying.

But then, when you've got your more level head on, you know all this.

geneer

JonnyBravo wrote: »

As for gman, he's just a less imaginative troll. He likes to think of himself as a level above and of course does sometimes poke a well aimed stick but it's mostly trite naysaying.

Very fair. I am indeed a bit of a troll troller.
And yes its hard to stay original when you're faced with the grinding repetative monotony of previously discredited dusty old bullish memes.

But its all worth it on those occasions when people who take themselves far to seriously end up skewered by their own posturing.
Its quite rewarding when they inevitabley spit stop out.
Old RepoMan is quite prone to Incandescent rages.

geneer

RenovationMan wrote: »

You and Graham see this board as 'Warfare' and you select 'targets'?
Goodness me, that explains a lot.

And then....

RenovationMan wrote: »

You couldn't be more wrong. I created this thread and some others in order to give DervProf, geneer and Graham enough rope to hang themselves and they have done just that.

And then...

RenovationMan wrote: »

I get wound up by his stalking antics. Simple as that.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Goodness me, looks like its hard to stay up on that high ground eh.

The barefaced self deluded hypocricy is exquisite.

Graham_Devon

RenovationMan wrote: »

You must not venture into the MFW board where most contributors post their mortgage repayment goals, or to the DFW board where they post their debt levels and repayment goals.

Some of us have come to MSE in order to set ourselves a financial goal and we support each other to achieve those goals, A signature is simply a way to show each other our progress.

Supporting someone is an alien concept with some members (but not all) on this particular board, so I understand why you may be confused.

Think theres a slight problem here.

As I'm now being called a vulture, I feel it's only fair I explain the issue I personally have here.

The issue isn't about support, and I find it weird you should state that is what it is all about.

The issue is the self congratulations, while TELLING others they are jealous if they do not congratulate you and join in. This is where I first became embroiled in a problem. I could see what dervprof was saying, didn't agree with you and ever since then, I've been dervprof's sidekick. We used to PM each other on several occasions, always had differences, but got on fine. It was only when I didn't big you up and saw dervprofs view that that all changed and I got the label and there has been an issue ever since.

Now, you talk about support, and what this board is all about, but go all out on dervprof, telling him just how little he has achieved compared to you. I've seen this done to others, but not in the all out way you went about it yesterday.

So you can't really complain that this is all about support, when you have gone all out to try and belittle another poster because of his choices....go all out to tell him you are better off....go all out to tell him he's jealous, and go all out to tell him just how little he has achieved as a middle aged man....simply because you have a bigger house.

I'm sorry, but I lose the will to be associated with anyone like that. Whether on a forum or in real life. I cannot stand that type of snobbery and need to put others down.

It takes a bigger person, IMO, to stand up and say "I 'only' have this, but I'm happy with it", than it does a man to start willy waving to everyone who doesn't congratulate him on his decisions. I personally cannot see what is wrong with anyone having enough posessions to suit their lifestyle.

If that makes me a vulture or whatever else, so be it.

I don't want to see you in debt. I don't want to see your mortgage go up instead of down. I couldn't care less whether you have the signature there or not. What does bother me is being told I HAVE to read it and HAVE to congratulate you, or I am jealous, or want to see you fail. Thats nonsense. I have no desire to see you fail....but equally I have no desire to be put in the position where I have to congratulate you, or face the "consequences" of not doing so.

But I can honestly say, IMO, there is nothing worse than belittleing others, especially over posessions and an associated "status".

If you want this board to be about support, I'd suggest those types of posts are the extreme opposite of what you wish this board to be.

On another tangent. You made a big issue of pulling posts because you were being "stalked". Now, instead of posts inside threads, you create entire threads to highlight exactly what you went around deleting?!

DervProf

Very well said Graham (and previous posters), a pretty good summary of the situation.

I am sorry if RM gets upset about some of my posts, but as I`ve said before, I certainly try to be reasonably polite, and certainly won't type nasty things about him, or call him names, (maybe just a few "humorous" digs) which I have witnessed numerous time between certain other forum members. It is obvious that I disagree with some of his posts, and I think that's fair enough in this particular forum. If he wants a pat on the back, it is quite obvious that he will get mixed reactions here, and he should expect those reactions, rather than sound shocked and upset about them. It's not that I disagree with what he is doing with his finances, or that I think he's got things wrong, it's just his repeated "look at me, I`m doing great" that grates a little. I'm sure I'm not the only one that finds that sort of behavior rather unpleasant, especially when he thinks that he is making (and possibly others) jealous. In fact, it now seems that he wants me to be jealous, and if that's his agenda, then not only will it fail, but I think it casts him in a very dim light. Be it on an anonymous internet forum, or a local pub, when I hear someone saying "look at me, I`m doing great", I just see a big headed show off with no class.

RM is obviously doing OK for himself. I have no problem with that, good luck to him. I would have thought that someone who is doing well financially should not need to repeatedly broadcast it on a forum such as this one. Why would they want to do such a thing ? Do they enjoy trying to make others jealous, or are they just looking for assurance that they have made the right decisions ?

RM, you appear to have made good decisions, by luck or by design. I don't really think we need monthly updates on what you are doing. I actually think that your personal financial details could actually be of use to someone who wants to borrow a similar amount of money to do up a property, and if a poster came here wanting advice on what type of mortgage to take out to carry out a refurbishment project, I'd have no problem in you stating what you have done/are doing. In fact it is more likely that some of your posts would be more suited to the Mortgages & Endowments forum or the forum about Pensions. If however you are here to "wave your willy", then by all means carry on, but you must expect some of us to tell you to put your todger away.

DervProf

JanCee wrote: »

Aha! In a nutshell, I think you both enjoy winding each other up, just don't let it get out of hand. People are much more combative on the internet than they would be in real life. In real life you would probably :beer:. Or would that be a step too far?

I would like to think that if I were in the same room as RM (without us knowing who each other were), he wouldn't be telling me about his "plan", and I wouldn't be "stalking" him. It is fairly possible that if we chatted to each other at the bar, we may well get on quite well. However, this is not a bar in a pub, this is an internet forum where we behave differently to how we would in the real world (although I still dislike show-offs, wherever I am).

geneer