Nursery and Trips Out

Logan112

Quote: " I do not agree with school trips. They can cause immense problems for those parents who cannot afford for their child to go and a lot of the trips are pointless."

The OP is talking about a private nursery trip - and I agree that it can be difficult to fund extra trips on top of the monthly rate.

BUT for school trips parents are asked to make a voluntary contribution of a specific amount. Schools are not allowed to insist on payment from everyone, nor exclude children because their parents haven't paid. However the reality is that if not enough parents pay the trip will be cancelled as schools cannot generally afford to fund trips themselves (although they often subsidise them).

Interesting that you think a lot of trips are pointless. Examples? Most trips have a link to the curriculum and make what's being taught in the classroom more meaningful to the children. And actually the majority of children get huge enjoyment just from going out for the day with their friends - and having a picnic and a coach ride! For me the smiles on their faces alone means that the trips aren't pointless.

gregg1

Logan112 wrote: »

Quote: " I do not agree with school trips. They can cause immense problems for those parents who cannot afford for their child to go and a lot of the trips are pointless."

The OP is talking about a private nursery trip - and I agree that it can be difficult to fund extra trips on top of the monthly rate.

BUT for school trips parents are asked to make a voluntary contribution of a specific amount. Schools are not allowed to insist on payment from everyone, nor exclude children because their parents haven't paid. However the reality is that if not enough parents pay the trip will be cancelled as schools cannot generally afford to fund trips themselves (although they often subsidise them).

Interesting that you think a lot of trips are pointless. Examples? Most trips have a link to the curriculum and make what's being taught in the classroom more meaningful to the children. And actually the majority of children get huge enjoyment just from going out for the day with their friends - and having a picnic and a coach ride! For me the smiles on their faces alone means that the trips aren't pointless.

I don't believe the mostof trips do have a link to the curriculum, in the same way that I do not believe people who take their kids on holiday during term time and then spout that old chestnut about them learning more when they are on holiday! Recent trips at my OH's school have included:

Alton Towers
Drayton Manor Park
A week beach holiday to Spain

I could go on. It is a a complete waste of time and I know how the cost of the trips works but I know of at least one parent who dreads these trips coming up because she is living on the breadline and cannot afford to pay anything but on the other hand is too proud to let the school know that.

And there is one simple answer if schools cannot afford to finance the trips themselves - don't have them!

gregg1

eslick wrote: »

if you are complaining now wait until they get to school, some weeks it cost us £30 to £40 just to send our two to school, with dinners, afterschool activities, trips, sponsered walks, dress down friday which a couple of terms ago they made every Friday, heathly tuck shops, oh non heathly tuck shops the list goes on and on.

Exactly my point - trips are a needless additional cost for parents who are already burdened with enough expense.

suited-aces

Being paid to feed all the kids that day and not bothering to do so, nice little earner for the nursery

Sambucus_Nigra

gregg1 wrote: »

Alton Towers
Drayton Manor Park
A week beach holiday to Spain

I could go on. It is a a complete waste of time.

Wow - really? A complete waste of time to have fun with your friends and chill out a bit?

Lip_Stick

I think the nursery should pay for the lunch if it's a private nursery. Meals are factored into the price you pay. The private nursery my son went to organised pack ups for any trips.

Mimi_Arc_en_ciel

Lip_Stick wrote: »

I think the nursery should pay for the lunch if it's a private nursery. Meals are factored into the price you pay. The private nursery my son went to organised pack ups for any trips.

It depends on the nursery T&C's - If my DD goes away on a trip for the day we can be asked to provide lunch, but then she gets other things free(such as at xmas she goes to see santa in the woods and they pick up the xmas tree)

If OP is REALLY that bothered then they can always tell the nursery they dont want their child to go. As the meerkats would say - SIMPLES

gregg1

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Wow - really? A complete waste of time to have fun with your friends and chill out a bit?

No - nothing wrong with that at all - out of school hours. I am aware not many people will agree with me but that is my opinion.

mwbrown

suited-aces wrote: »

Being paid to feed all the kids that day and not bothering to do so, nice little earner for the nursery

That was along the lines i was thinking... I wouldnt deprive my daughter of anything and she is really looking forward to going to see all the animals at the farm - she keeps asking every morning "is today the day im going to the farm".

My original question was a simple one - should private nursery provide the packed lunch for the paid day trip out?(they are providing the morning and afternoon snacks for the kids)

Anyway enough of the squabbling on the post now...

Logan112

gregg1 wrote: »

I don't believe the mostof trips do have a link to the curriculum, in the same way that I do not believe people who take their kids on holiday during term time and then spout that old chestnut about them learning more when they are on holiday! Recent trips at my OH's school have included:

Alton Towers
Drayton Manor Park
A week beach holiday to Spain"

Ok, maybe I wasn't precise enough - I was referring to primary school trips. I still maintain that most of these trips have a curriculum link.
And what about the other trips at your OH's school - do they have curriculum links or not? Or have you conveniently "forgotten" about the ones that don't support your point of view?