Strikes to go ahead

ILW

StevieJ wrote: »

As much as they can do by 2015, at which time they will be kicked out on their !!!

What, so labour can have another go at trying to emulate Greece.

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

As opposed to never do a days work and live what many in the world would consider to be a very comfortable existence?

As opposed to starving to death when no work is available even if you will work for buttons.

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

What, so labour can have another go at trying to emulate Greece.

Interesting, when did Labour join the Eurozone? you sound like one of those Daily Mail bozos.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Waffle

Lets leave it there ......

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I say lets leave it now.....hang on, <jab>, no really, leave it now and act like adults <oooo, Jab>. Let's leave it.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Lets leave it there ......

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I say lets leave it now.....hang on, <jab>, no really, leave it now and act like adults <oooo, Jab>. Let's leave it.

We have left it graham, and it takes two to disagree as you well know.

But don't let that stop you trying to start another argument.:D

shame rewired is not around, you might of got a "thanks" for that.

ILW

StevieJ wrote: »

Interesting, when did Labour join the Eurozone? you sound like one of those Daily Mail bozos.

Eurozone membership is only part of Greeces problem. The main issue is that they have spent years spending more than they were getting in taxes, and borrowing to make up the difference.

andy.m_2

Teachers are going to look very poor after this.

This country is on it's knees financially and everyone should chip in to aid recovery.
The public purse is not a bottomless pit and unsustainable artifically high pensions are a timebomb that needs to have the fuse cut and right now.
Don't like it? Change jobs.

Those of us that work in the private sector have had pay freezes, final salary schemes closed and all sorts of changes to t&c's, we either put up with it or change jobs.

Public sector workers need to wake up and face facts that the same financial constraints apply across the board to all sectors of all markets.

Zero sympathy and I have to say that I find the proposed action distasteful to say the least...

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

Eurozone membership is only part of Greeces problem. The main issue is that they have spent years spending more than they were getting in taxes, and borrowing to make up the difference.

Ironically the Greek problem comes more from an aversion to paying taxes rather than exceptionally high expenditure, seems like a typical Tory trait rather than Labour. BTW the only reason that the Greeks could borrow at reasonable interest rates was due to Euro membership.

purch

.........and the only reason they could borrow so much was because of EUR membership.

They basically 'nicked' Germany's Mastercard/Visa/Amex and borrowed vast amounts on it.

J_i_m

andy.m wrote: »

Teachers are going to look very poor after this.

This country is on it's knees financially and everyone should chip in to aid recovery.
The public purse is not a bottomless pit and unsustainable artifically high pensions are a timebomb that needs to have the fuse cut and right now.
Don't like it? Change jobs.

Those of us that work in the private sector have had pay freezes, final salary schemes closed and all sorts of changes to t&c's, we either put up with it or change jobs.

Public sector workers need to wake up and face facts that the same financial constraints apply across the board to all sectors of all markets.

Zero sympathy and I have to say that I find the proposed action distasteful to say the least...

I disagree somewhat. I think it's too easy to take public sector workers for granted, some people seem to assume that if a person works for the public then they somehow give up their rights.

It's worth remembering that society benefits from public workers in so many areas... be they teachers, bin collection, nurses, police, fire fighters, armed forces etc They all provide a vital service, often for very little thanks, and also often for lots of abuse as well.

Any worker in any sector is entitled to stand up for their rights, or for better conditions, if this were a strike in a private sector, no one would bat an eyelid, but since it's public and it's teachers people are quick to take offence because it might inconvenience for one day.

It's also too easy to assume that teachers have more holiday time than most professions, yet I'm sure there's plenty of work for them to do during half terms and holidays, planning etc.

Public sector jobs are far from safe. Budgets are being hit everywhere, recruitment is being frozen, overtime is being is being drastically reduced or scrapped altogether, jobs are being made redundant. workloads are increasing, stress levels are going through the roof.

These people work for you, they work for everybody... cut them some slack, they deserve some consideration and respect.