Strikes to go ahead

ILW

Generali wrote: »

AIUI it depends on the subject.

Goldmans will pay a maths grad a lot of money. They're less fussed about history graduates.

Why not have different pay rates for the more sought after teachers then?

Generali

ILW wrote: »

Why not have different pay rates for the more sought after teachers then?

I think maths and languages teachers get 'golden hellos'.

I think it's about the same amount in 2011 as my first bonus was in 1995.

Really2

Orpheo wrote: »

Now you are quoting me out of context and arguing against positions I have not taken.

Yes, I was judgmental of you, not all parents. You deserved it. You think that I should not fight my corner because you may have a "slight problem" rearranging plans. So not that inconvenient after all then.

How was it out of context! you said you make no comment or judgment yet you make one to someone you don't even know!

What a horrid bitter person you are.

As I stated my child is not at school but I do at least understand it is a problem for those it effects.
Your failure to even acknowledge this just shows how you don't even care about the children.

At least I have the comfort of knowing my child is not taught by you.

I would have no problem if it was affecting me to rearrange but it would pee me off to have to pay £30+ every time not knowing how long it will go on for. (no doubt you will spin that into not wanting to look after my child)

You seem to think it is unfair to be financially worse off, why do you think the general public do not feel the same?

michaels

Would the sort of maths genius who would thrive at a merchant banks necessarily be the same person who would successfully be able to teach children of all abilities?

I think it is a travesty that public sector wages do not vary depending on supply and demand - to me it makes more sense to pay an effective maths teacher in a tough inner city school more than a less effective art teacher in a nice suburban school = differences in cost of living and alternative employment mean that a flat wage scale means a very different calibre of teacher in different roles.

Orpheo

Allow me to make something clear before we go any further. I will not be striking on Thursday. I do not even belong to a teaching union, I do not believe that they act on my behalf. I came out of my union membership about 5 years ago. The argument often spouted for joining a union is to have legal protection in case of malicious allegations, that is not a compelling enough reason for me to affiliate myself with a political organisation. I have little support for unions, I have support for my colleagues.

I have never, nor can I see a time when I will strike. However, I cannot dispute the right of others to do so.

I will not be working as a teacher on Thursday. I have been a part-time teacher for 7 years. When I am not teaching I write, freelance, from my dining table in the hours that my daughter is at school. I choose to do this because I want a parent to be there when our daughter comes home, before really2 twists this into some attack on working parents this is my choice.

About £100 per month.

ILW

Agree with you on that.
From what I have heard though it appears thet the unions are totally against different pay rates for the more or less demanding teaching jobs. Seems daft to me.

StevieJ

Generali wrote: »

I see this argument or varieties of it quite a bit and have never understood it. Can you clarify a bit StevieJ?

What exactly is it that you think that the Tories want to undo?

The Welfare State.

ILW

StevieJ wrote: »

The Welfare State.

All depends on hoy you define "the welfare state".

Really2

Orpheo wrote: »

before really2 twists this into some attack on working parents this is my choice.

Why even bother, Especially after your comments about working parents.

let me get this clear, I called you an idiot, but since of not made any personal attack, you on the other hand have called me an idiot and questioned my parenting.

I think it may have been I who supported working parents in this thread.:o

I once knew a part time teacher on here, very own minded. Quite nasty to those who disagreed with her.

Now what was her name??

Generali

StevieJ wrote: »

The Welfare State.

All of it or some of it?

Do you include all state pensions, all wage subsidies, all dole, all state funded health care, all state funded education and all ill health/disability benefits in that?