Teachers strike on Thursday

gregg1

kit77 wrote: »

milliebear00001

Thank you - I understand for PE teachers but just couldn't understand the likes of Maths etc.

Violetta

If may be wrong but I am sure teachers in Scotland came to some agreement and at present were not planning on striking at all.

why not? mental exertion is as draining as physical. Having said that I do not think anyone should be force to work over the age of 65, whatever their profession.

gregg1

liney wrote: »

I think primary is more physical on the whole. Firstly they teach everything, including both Maths and PE.

Secondly, they are constantly getting down the child's level to speak eye to eye, or kneeling at a desk to help an individual.

The same can not be said of Secondary teachers, due to the physical size of the children at 11 plus, and therefore the size of the desks and benches used.

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING!!!!!

Here we have yet another person who seems to know all there is to know about a job they have never done !!!!!

make_me_wise

Whether you teach primary or secondary the stresses and strains of the job are equal. At the end of the day you have 30+ kids to stimulate, motivate and teach.

You could argue that with age comes experience and therefore a teacher of 60+ has as much, if not more to offer, as a colleague in their 30s. However what worries many of my colleagues is having the energy levels required to do the job at their very best.

jellyhead

Secondary has its own challenges, I'm sure!

As mother to a hormonal year ten I certainly wouldn't want to have a class of 30 of them to deal with.

Primary is very physical but also, the teacher has the kids all day for every subject and I'd rather my little ones had a teacher who was under 60 - no offence to any older teachers who are still sprightly.

I remember some teachers from my school days who were retiring that year, and a few of my eldest son's teachers who were also retiring after teaching his class and they are less patient and more tired than younger teachers. They are still mentally capable of teaching, but the more challenging children are a struggle to deal with, in my opinion.

gratefulforhelp_2

msb5262 wrote: »

I will be on strike on Thursday not to attack children's education - I have three of my own and think education is the most important thing in the world - but to defend it.

Do the general public really think that making teachers pay considerably more for their pensions, work considerably longer (anyone keen to have teachers working until 68???) and receive considerably less is going to encourage high quality applicants to join the profession?

As always, intelligent and sensible, msb and great taste in font colour

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Yep, those teachers are always mooning aren't they!?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:I do try to save it for the weekend.

Le73Uq86Uv

Why don't we have a Con/Dem law to increase pension contributions but scrap any pension pay out, that way we would all be equal in getting no pension at all and everyone would be happy.

Or would you?

gratefulforhelp_2

Would you?

FATBALLZ

It's sad really that when teachers have a dispute with the government they feel the most appropriate course of action is to take it out on children's educations. Why don't they boycott 'inset' days or refuse en masse to pay council tax or something rather than take it out on the vulnerable.

All the government has to do is sit back and watch public opinion turn more and more against the teachers as they continue to destroy the prospects of future generations in a fit of spite.

milliebear00001

FATBALLZ wrote: »

It's sad really that when teachers have a dispute with the government they feel the most appropriate course of action is to take it out on children's educations. Why don't they boycott 'inset' days or refuse en masse to pay council tax or something rather than take it out on the vulnerable.

All the government has to do is sit back and watch public opinion turn more and more against the teachers as they continue to destroy the prospects of future generations in a fit of spite.

The whole point of this strike is to act collectively to show how needed we are - that is the point of any strike.

Australian teachers won their last dispute by working to rule - believe me, you would not want that to happen here.

A one day strike, as somebody already mentioned, is exactly equivalent to the teaching hours lost to the royal wedding...I doubt children will unduly suffer, and the Government obviously agree.

globetraveller

As a teacher in Scotland we aren't striking over pensions. I am however, extremely concerned about some of the cost cutting and have children in my class who can't possibly get what they need. I may vote for strike action in the future if I thought it would help spell out how concerned we are. We have been told we can't work to rule as a lot of the activities we do which are not written into our contract have been done for so long it is now expected. Can't quite understand that point of view.
I think there is a real fear of teachers that looking after 30 children is just too tiring when you hit 60. Imagine your gran looking after that amount.
There needs to be thought as to how to employ older teachers. Perhaps used as learning support for small groups? After school clubs?
Personally I don't think we can win over pensions but the job itself must be looked at to make it less physically and mentally draining for older teachers.