Teachers strike on Thursday

thunderbird

My youngest's school is shut, but he is on a daytrip that day and that is still going ahead. However the breakfast/after school club isn't going to be open which is inconvenient for me and nothing to do with strikes as they are not teachers. I need to make plans for this but I'm still waiting to hear if my eldest's school is open or not - hope we hear on Monday, not happy with such short notice.

thunderbird

paddedjohn wrote: »

Teachers these days dont give a flying f*ck about the kids and are going to lose what little respect the rest of us have left for them if they continue with these strikes.

who is this 'rest of us'?

pavlovs_dog

paddedjohn wrote: »

what little respect the rest of us have left for them

never mind little, 'any' would be nice if the teacher bashing threads on this forum are anything to go by

wallbash

This autumn, all the unions, and the biggest Headteachers' union are also likely to ballot for action and so many more schools are likely to close then, unless this is resolved amicably beforehand.

Please remove the 'ALL' ............. P.A.T will NOT be balloting for a strike.

gratefulforhelp_2

paddedjohn wrote: »

Teachers these days dont give a flying f*ck about the kids and are going to lose what little respect the rest of us have left for them if they continue with these strikes.

What a well thought out view, expressed in such an erudite manner.

pavlovs_dog wrote: »

never mind little, 'any' would be nice if the teacher bashing threads on this forum are anything to go by

Quite so.

wallbash wrote: »

Please remove the 'ALL' ............. P.A.T will NOT be balloting for a strike.

Do they still exist?

@ the person who said "thanks teachers" you should be saying "thanks CONDEMS" their divide and rule strategy appears to be working.
We ought to be united against government, not one body of workers.

make_me_wise

bonbannah wrote: »

Teachers who aren't striking are not supposed to be asked to cover striking teachers. Some headteachers/ deputy heads will be trying to cover lessons themselves, even if this means putting two or three classes in the hall and putting a film on.

Schools won't officially know until Monday whether NUT and ATL staff will be striking as this is when negotiations are supposed to take place, so this will explain why some schools haven't even mentioned it yet.

Exactly this. The head at my school has sent a letter out to parents advising of a 'likely strike'. Until the unions have exhausted all negotiation options the school wont commit. I can see how frustrating this must be to the parents as they have working lives and need to make plans with regards to childcare etc.

make_me_wise

paddedjohn wrote: »

Teachers these days dont give a flying f*ck about the kids and are going to lose what little respect the rest of us have left for them if they continue with these strikes.

You have obviously never worked within a school and seen the dedication teachers put into their work. Just because we may decide to strike once in a blue moon does not mean we dont care about the children.

I wont lower myself to your level and repeat what you actually said about how you view teachers feelings toward the children in their care. What an ignorant way to express a point of view.

td

I find it appalling that as private sector workers did not stand up when their pensions were raided, they seem to think it acceptable to condemn others for standing up for theirs. I'm guessing that most people on here don't understand the figures involved and have been reading the Daily mail unbiased reporting again. Here in west Yorkshire the pension fund looks quite healthy but when the thatcher govt allowed people to stop paying into pensions a lot of people in southern parts of the country decided they would do that and now their pension funds aren't looking too healthy.

Respect for teachers - that's a bit of a laugh really. Give a pupil detention for bad behaviour parents decide their child won't do the punishment, so what happens- behaviour gets worse and we end up with children who have been taught not to respect their teachers. My union is not striking but I would strike if they did - I cannot imagine teaching some of the disrespectful, aggressive and in some cases frightening children I teach way into my 60s because it takes a lot of energy. I already don't have the energy to do much in the eves after I've finished working. People who don't teach are very quick to condemn - step into my shoes for a day - I'm guessing not many of your jobs involve being hit or having kids and parents swear at you on a regular basis. To pretend this doesn't happen and that parents don't influence it is stupid. To pretend that teaching isn't stressful is ridiculous. I love teaching most of the kids I teach but the increasing minority make it so Hard I will not apologies for not wanting to do til I'm much older and for those of you who moan about poor pensions in the private sector- you should have store united and done something about it instead of moaning and expecting everyone to join you in your apathy

cyclingyorkie

the primary school i work in is closed to children - but the boss and all the TAs and MSAs are expected to turn up......

DD2's comp is closed to Yrs 7-9, but open for Yrs 10 and 12! DD2 is not impressed - she's Yr12!

thunderbird

td wrote: »

I find it appalling that as private sector workers did not stand up when their pensions were raided, they seem to think it acceptable to condemn others for standing up for theirs. I'm guessing that most people on here don't understand the figures involved and have been reading the Daily mail unbiased reporting again. Here in west Yorkshire the pension fund looks quite healthy but when the thatcher govt allowed people to stop paying into pensions a lot of people in southern parts of the country decided they would do that and now their pension funds aren't looking too healthy.

Respect for teachers - that's a bit of a laugh really. Give a pupil detention for bad behaviour parents decide their child won't do the punishment, so what happens- behaviour gets worse and we end up with children who have been taught not to respect their teachers. My union is not striking but I would strike if they did - I cannot imagine teaching some of the disrespectful, aggressive and in some cases frightening children I teach way into my 60s because it takes a lot of energy. I already don't have the energy to do much in the eves after I've finished working. People who don't teach are very quick to condemn - step into my shoes for a day - I'm guessing not many of your jobs involve being hit or having kids and parents swear at you on a regular basis. To pretend this doesn't happen and that parents don't influence it is stupid. To pretend that teaching isn't stressful is ridiculous. I love teaching most of the kids I teach but the increasing minority make it so Hard I will not apologies for not wanting to do til I'm much older and for those of you who moan about poor pensions in the private sector- you should have store united and done something about it instead of moaning and expecting everyone to join you in your apathy

hmm, I think you're maybe a bit quick to condemn too - by making equally sweeping generalisations/judgements about parents/non teachers.

I do have respect for teachers and believe that it is a stressful, demanding job and not one that I would want to do myself. However, I also appreciate that there are many, many people doing equally/more stressful and difficult jobs. Basically, teaching is tough, but then so are lots of other professions.