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MSE News: Single mothers 'worst hit by cuts'

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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    lazer wrote: »
    Which mean there is another 50% that do receive child maintenance and benefits on top, why?
    Why, what?
    Why do the other 50% get child support and benefits? There's that assumption thing again ;) You're assuming that the other 50% are benefit claimants whereas they could be working.
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  • lazer
    lazer Posts: 3,402 Forumite
    DX2 wrote: »
    Why, what?
    Why do the other 50% get child support and benefits? There's that assumption thing again ;) You're assuming that the other 50% are benefit claimants whereas they could be working.

    Yes, some could be working, but I'm sure there is some that aren't and even within those working, there is still some receiving benefits.

    Why is child maintenance disregarded when working out benefits for single parents? It shouldn't be!
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  • Matt_Fry
    Matt_Fry Posts: 89 Forumite
    DX2 wrote: »
    Just had to pick this up.....

    Currently more than three million children live in separated families and around 50% do not receive child maintenance
    Maria Miller 23 Mar 2011

    If a benefit claimant chooses to be unemployed then he gets nothing.

    If a housing claimant chooses to be homeless then he get no state housing.

    If a woman chooses to be a single parent, she gets benefits, a house, free medical, schooling - and child maintenance.

    In the EU, she gets nothing. She thinks twice before getting her knickers off. That does away with a need for a CSA and benefits complety.
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    Why not do some real research MSE?
    Show how much a single mother gets compared to say someone on benefits without children?
    Then show how much after cuts both get.
    You will probably find the single mother is still better off financially, so hardly getting the worse deal.
    They may lose a bigger percentage, but they have far more of a percantage in the first place.
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • EclipsedMind
    EclipsedMind Posts: 174 Forumite
    I can't help but feel their statistical anaylsis is on shaky ground as they are including monies before and after birth and then comparing single fathers and single mothers. The woman would have gotten maternity grants which the father would not have.

    To be honest I would take this all with a pinch of salt as the father will be hit just as badly by changes to housing benefit, WTC etc as the woman but of course that would not make for the gender inequality they sought for their political agenda.

    EM
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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    Matt_Fry wrote: »
    If a benefit claimant chooses to be unemployed then he gets nothing.

    If a housing claimant chooses to be homeless then he get no state housing.

    If a woman chooses to be a single parent, she gets benefits, a house, free medical, schooling - and child maintenance.

    In the EU, she gets nothing. She thinks twice before getting her knickers off. That does away with a need for a CSA and benefits complety.
    How is your ex these days Matt? Did she think twice about dropping her drawers to you? Did she come after you for child support when you fled to Cyprus to avoid the child support agency?
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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    lazer wrote: »
    Yes, some could be working, but I'm sure there is some that aren't and even within those working, there is still some receiving benefits.

    Why is child maintenance disregarded when working out benefits for single parents? It shouldn't be!
    Something to do with child poverty, dunno you really need to ask the appropriate people that question.
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    :D
  • kerrydrobertson
    kerrydrobertson Posts: 1,578 Forumite
    my sister split up from her partner a few months back now and is now, 'living the life'. She has since got a house, which she pays no rent towards, can go out at the weekends, go shopping for clothes for herself and is going on holiday in August, courtesey of the government. She has no job, although after childcare costs, there is very little benefit to her getting one as the benefits would be cut, so not much incentive for her to get a job.
    To say they will be worse off isnt very fair as they seem to have a pretty cosy life as it is just now.
  • Sixer
    Sixer Posts: 1,087 Forumite
    edited 23 June 2011 at 2:32PM
    DX2 wrote: »
    Why, what?
    Why do the other 50% get child support and benefits? There's that assumption thing again ;) You're assuming that the other 50% are benefit claimants whereas they could be working.

    It does depend on whether or not you see in-work tax credits as benefits or tax rebates.

    A lass I know works full-time from home (house fully paid off, so no mortgage, no rent) so no childcare. She earns £17k and gets £65 p/w tax credits plus £20 p/w child benefit. She also gets £100 p/w child maintenance which is paid on the dot every single week and doesn't impact on her tax credits.

    I'm not saying she *shouldn't* get tax credits, but it's madness to suggest her lifestyle is being significantly impacted by the Coalition cuts and benefits changes - especially in comparison to women who can't get their ex to pay a bean. I can well imagine these women are feeling the pain.
  • angeleyesxx
    angeleyesxx Posts: 20 Forumite
    I was once a single parent and i managed to work part-time then full-time once the kids were at school and am glad i did as it showed my kids that if you want anything in life you have to work for it and not just sit on your bum and let the tax payers pay for it. I think that once the person's kids get to school age they should be made to go back to work BUT there arent enough jobs out there or even affordable childcare depending on where you live!
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