Packed lunch getting nicked

spamhater

I'm more of a lurker than a poster but I felt the need to comment here.

It's the OP's business what she feeds her child. I don't remember her asking for advice on nutrition from some parsimonious idiots who are full of their own self importance

The issue here is theft and there is a possibility that the perpetrator is neither hungry nor hard done by but just a thieving good for nothing little brat who thinks he/she should be entitled to take anything they want.

These kind need dealt with before they turn in to adults who spend their time in and out of courts and prisons wasting cash from the tax of decent hard working people.

cheepskate_2

Nicki wrote: »

. And then she complained her child came home hungry The child would have been starving irrespective of that, because OP did not provide a sandwich or any protein element to the meal.
, but OP's continued protestations of good parenting are misplaced. On most days, she may well provide a satisfactory lunch, but on this occasion even without the theft she provided an appalling one! If she "forgot" the sandwich, why didn't she drop a replacement into school before lunchtime, rather than expect her child to go without?

At no point did i say in any of my posts that my child went hungry, again i reiterate, this was not a post about anything other than a child stealing from my son. This is why i have kept it very on topic and not responded to the H.E topics

How do you know what he actually had for lunch, again I have not stated what he actually had. I have stated that the thief left him with a apple pack in his lunch box, that's all.

At no point have i gave out protestation of being a good parent..... again all made up by you. During this topic i have never defended my actions , again because it was about thieving, not anything else.

You have jumped to all sorts of assumptions, you should really look at yourself seriously and how you react to situations in life, you seem to misread situations and add whatever juicy bits you want in . No wonder we have all the !!!!!ing at the school gates

jetta_wales

Doozergirl wrote: »

You are angry!
As far as gibing goes, the words Pot, Kettle and Black spring to mind.
I’ve learned where not to go for intelligent conversation, anyway.

Well that's 10 or more minutes of your life you're not going to get back lol. Was it worth it, all those quotes just to again be exceptionally childish and prove that you are indeed acting like a stuck up play ground brat.

Get a grip

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rachbc

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I don't agree.

A sandwhich will contain 150-200 calories
Fruit (banana for example) 150 calories
Yoghurt pot 50-100 calories

Penguin 130 calories / cereal bar 99 calories
crisps 88-130 calories depending on the brand.

A small chocolate bar, and small bag of crisps as part fo a daily balanced diet is moderation, as long as the evening meal is balanced also.

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A banana has between 80-120 cal depending on size, and apple 50-80. Plus lets not forget vitamins, minerals and fibre and slow release carbs - non of which are present in the penguin!

Walkers 35g bag of crisps is more like 180 cals too....

And yes I'll admit my dd has a cupcake in her lunch today (with extra sprinkles!), but there are also carrot sticks and fruit. She gets 1 sweet treat and 1 savory a week...

tom9980

My partner is a primary school teacher and i get to listen to all these stories of bad parenting etc on a daily basis, so i do feel i can comment.

Seriously the hardest part of the job is dealing with the adults and the bad behaviour of children which is ultimately caused by the adults more often than not!

OP i feel you have been harshly judged we dont know exactly what you feed your children day to day. However the example you gave does not exactly paint you in a good light either so please understand that you may wish to review the choices you are making on behalf of your children. This of course is your choice but do understand it may affect them for the rest of their lives (weight, fussy, bad diet etc) although believe me some children are given much worse!!!! so dont feel too bad and you do seem to be open to a small change?

Now to deal with the actual issue of stealing please talk to the teacher as often as you can whenever the incidents occur. Please understand the teacher will be dealing with LOTS of problems with the children in their care so you need to understand their time is constantly stretched to the limit and that your child is one of up to 30. I am sure if you work together with the teacher by discussing the issue and finding solutions to the problem together that you can find the culprit so they can be dealt with.

Putting hot chilli sauce or laxatives in your childs food is a disgusting way to deal with this problem and those suggesting it should truly be ashamed. To be honest its damn right dangerous and i can guarantee the teacher, school and parent of the child will be furious.

As a general piece of advice to parents i would suggest you all be open to constructive criticism and take on board things a teacher tells you when you do talk. To give an example there is a child in my partners class who is tired a lot this makes him difficult to deal with especially considering he has behaviour issues even when he is not tired. His mother claims he sleeps 7pm to 7am however he is obviously overtired and there is certainly an issue and it is highly likely she is lying to my partner. The same child is also obsessed with a certain computer game and we believe the parent uses the game console to pacify her child and his bad behaviour for long periods of the day rather than actually work with the school to deal with his problems. This parent believes her child is perfectly fine, however it is clear he is not and it is causing problems for the whole class. Ironically she witnessed the child in question recently having the same tantrums he has at school under his mothers care, again more lies. Ultimately the parent is storing up issues for the future and my partner is powerless to prevent it unless the parent starts working with her to solve the problem together with a consistent approach. Its a real shame my partner feels she is unable to talk to this parent because the issues can be solved.

I guess what i am trying to say is talk and listen to the teacher, work with the teacher if your child has problems don't deny it because the teacher will know better. If there are issues at home of any kind tell the teacher. Do not be scared to ask for help. Do not immediately go on the defensive when a teacher tells you there is a problem all that will happen is your child will suffer. Teachers really appreciate being able to have honest frank discussions with parents who are trying their best to work with them to solve your childs problems so please please everyone communicate!

euronorris

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I don't agree.

A sandwhich will contain 150-200 calories
Fruit (banana for example) 150 calories
Yoghurt pot 50-100 calories

Penguin 130 calories / cereal bar 99 calories
crisps 88-130 calories depending on the brand.

A small chocolate bar, and small bag of crisps as part fo a daily balanced diet is moderation, as long as the evening meal is balanced also.

I agree with izzy', I hate the way other parents preach about healthy food choices. Like feeding a small choccie bar and bag of crisps when everything else is balanced makes you a bad parent.

My children would wilt if all they ate were fruit, veg and low calorie options for everything. They are very active, do many extra ciricular activities, walk everywhere as I don't drive! Thankfully sugar and E numbers don't affect their behaviour, and all 3 are doing way above average at school, and have boundless energy for family time! So if a choccie bar and crisps a day is so bad, I'll happily do it to have healthy happy normal (if not slightly under) weight children!

It's not just about calories, it's about nutrition.

Fruit and yoghurt is more nutritious than a choc bar and crisps. So, I believe that having fruit and/or yoghurt as a treat/snack each day is far, far better than choc and crisps. And the choc and crisps should be limited to once or twice a week.

OP, you did state in your first post that after the theft, your child was only left with a bag a fruit and said that it would usually also be a sandwich, but you didn't pack one for him that day. So, that is where that has come from. At this point, I'm just assuming you simply forgot.

No one has called you a bad parent, and how could they? They don't know you or your situation anywhere near well enough to do so. But, some of us do feel that you could be making better choices for your childs lunch.

I'm certainly not judging anyone else, I was merely trying to discuss how you could remove the problem of theiving AND improve your child's nutrition. I know healthy eating is difficult, believe me (currently fighting the urge to go downstairs and get a chocolate bar myself!), so I would never sit here and tell someone else that they are bad for making an unhealthy food choice.

However, I don't think it's beneficial for any of us to pretend that the average UK diet is healthy, or that a diet filled with junk is OK because the person eating it is skinny. Skinny people are not immune to high cholesterol levels, heart disease or diabetes. So, whenever I see an opportunity to discuss healthy eating/diet/nutrition, I will jump at the chance. Not just to try and educate others, but to also gain more knowledge myself, and I make no apologies for that.

Whilst I agree that you shouldn't have to remove treats from a child, just to ensure they don't get stolen, the fact remains that it would solve the problem in the short term (whilst the school resolves it long term). You could also keep one treat in the lunch if you prefer, with plenty of healthier stuff. That way, you would be ensuring that your child does not go hungry in the event that the treat is stolen.

Finally, have you heard anymore from the school OP? Did they respond to your letter? Has your child had anymore food stolen?

Percy1983

Anybody else thinking this has gone in the wrong direction?

The childs food has been stolen that is the issue, the OP didn't ask 'what should I feed my child?'

With that how has the human race lasted this long, I was brough up on a daily bag of crisps and a chocy bar (still am doing) and I am in perfectly good health, we had a health check at work and I had one of the best results in the office (blood pressure, sugar and cholesterol checked).

Seriously there is worse things going on in the world than children eating crisps!

cheepskate_2

euronorris wrote: »

Whilst I agree that you shouldn't have to remove treats from a child, just to ensure they don't get stolen, the fact remains that it would solve the problem in the short term (whilst the school resolves it long term).

Personally, I don't want to resolve the matter in this way, I really want the culprit to be caught.

For me this would be doing a great disservice to the child that is stealing, allowing it to think that it can do it without any recourse. yes its not so bad at the moment its only a choc bar/ crisps, but we would be allowing it to think it is acceptanble as long as they are not caught
Baring in mind these children are 11/12 years old, and not too long until they can have a criminal record for stealing.

Even bigger than that is " you cant go through life thinking you can or must have everything you want /what others have. Life is not like that and better to learn at a young age.

euronorris

Percy1983 wrote: »

Anybody else thinking this has gone in the wrong direction?

The childs food has been stolen that is the issue, the OP didn't ask 'what should I feed my child?'

Never understood this reasoning. If a friend approached me and asked for help with one problem, but it was obvious there was also another problem. Should I just pretend that the other problem doesn't exist?

Since when does a conversation need to be only about one thing, and nothing else? Goes against the very flow of conversations in general, and as this is a public forum, it is to be expected that threads will evolve past the original query/topic.

With that how has the human race lasted this long (our standard diet has changed massively in the last 50 or so years, and the effect is visibly noticeable), I was brough up on a daily bag of crisps and a chocy bar (still am doing) and I am in perfectly good health, we had a health check at work and I had one of the best results in the office (blood pressure, sugar and cholesterol checked).

Seriously there is worse things going on in the world than children eating crisps!

You are the exception to the rule, and very fortunate. Many others are not so fortunate.

Of course there are worse things going on in the world. There are also worse things going on in the world than someone having their lunch stolen, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a problem, or that it shouldn't be addressed.

euronorris

cheepskate wrote: »

Personally, I don't want to resolve the matter in this way, I really want the culprit to be caught.

For me this would be doing a great disservice to the child that is stealing, allowing it to think that it can do it without any recourse. yes its not so bad at the moment its only a choc bar/ crisps, but we would be allowing it to think it is acceptanble as long as they are not caught
Baring in mind these children are 11/12 years old, and not too long until they can have a criminal record for stealing.

Even bigger than that is " you cant go through life thinking you can or must have everything you want /what others have. Life is not like that and better to learn at a young age.

I'm not suggesting the culprit shouldn't be caught, or go without facing consequences.

I'm simply saying that you have, within your control, the ability to remove the problem in the short term (thus ensuring that your child doesn't go hungry), whilst the school deals with it in the long term (ie, find the culprit, punish accordingly and then continue with monitoring the situation).

If you do not wish to do it, then you don't have to. It's just a suggestion, more to ensure that your child doesn't go hungry than anything else. If you can find another way around that (making the school responsible for feeding your child, should anymore thefts occur, for example) then fair enough. It's up to you.