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ESA & Working

I'm in the Support Group of ESA(Contribution), have been for 18 months now and was told that there would be no re-assessment for another 2 years.

I've just been offered some work which I could do at home in my time when I feel able. The work is regular and guaranteed for 4 years (so they say!!)

Anyhow, I know I could cope with this in between bouts of illness.

It is based on compiling finished reports. All PC involved.

I will be paid a retainer of £5000 a month and a bonus if completed on target of another 10%.

It is a professional self employed consultancy contract, so the money isn't a wage, it goes straight into the business. After expenses and wages paid out to my wife, son and daughter, there won't be much left for me.

What I would like to know is, being in the Support Group what hours can I work and how much can I earn without them taking my benefit off me?

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  • CountryGuy
    CountryGuy Posts: 714 Forumite
    Just sold a lawnmower on Ebay.. That's the last time my neighbour will wake me up on a Saturday morning!
  • wottonby
    wottonby Posts: 88 Forumite
    edited 14 June 2011 at 9:16AM
    I think I have it.
    Because I am in the Support Group, I can work for up to 16 hours a week, collect a wage (profit) of no more than £95 per week and can carry this on for as long as I want.

    Because it is being run through a business, and I will employ my wife and children, there would be nothing stopping me paying them a good wage as none of them have anything to do with my ESA claim.

    That seems a good system. Just as long as I watch my hours worked.

    Thank you for showing me how it is best to do it without losing my benefit. That is what is important to me. It took me ages to get the group I wanted and wouldn't like to lose it or have to go through all of that assessing again. I need the £100 a week to cover the cost of my mortgage and council tax.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    wottonby wrote: »
    I think I have it.
    Because I am in the Support Group, I can work for up to 16 hours a week, collect a wage (profit) of no more than £95 per week and can carry this on for as long as I want.

    Because it is being run through a business, and I will employ my wife and children, there would be nothing stopping me paying them a good wage as none of them have anything to do with my ESA claim.

    That seems a good system. Just as long as I watch my hours worked.

    Thank you for showing me how it is best to do it without losing my benefit. That is what is important to me. It took me ages to get the group I wanted and wouldn't like to lose it or have to go through all of that assessing again. I need the £100 a week to cover the cost of my mortgage and council tax.

    Jog on troll ...
    Gone ... or have I?
  • relic
    relic Posts: 2,153 Forumite
    Trolls could be so much better if they were just a little smarter, and a bit less obvious.

    I mean look at me, I made my first post like a month ago and already have 1,000 'Thanks', big master plan you see!
    Per Mare Per Terram
  • dianadoesnt
    dianadoesnt Posts: 36 Forumite
    Clearly i am am new, but i have to say that i was initially confused by this post-it just seemed to be so 'cheeky' (quite amusing though!)
    Now i understand-a troll. DOH!
    Diana
  • wottonby
    wottonby Posts: 88 Forumite
    The question is genuine. Why do people think I am taking the mickey?

    I only wanted to know how it was possible to work some hours and still retain the Support Group that I had to fight hard to get.

    The first reply was very helpful and has pointed me in a good direction.

    I also read from that link that the DWP may think I am better and question if I am still ill.

    So the way forward for me is to register the business in my wife's name, she does all of the typing, report preparation etc and I do the research for her as and when I am able and all of the dictation. That way I am not working at all and have no need to tell the DWP!

    I don't think it is fair that I am having those comments. This site is supposed to be here to help people like me work through the benefit system without falling foul of the DWP.
  • Cpt.Scarlet
    Cpt.Scarlet Posts: 1,102 Forumite
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    wottonby wrote: »
    The question is genuine. Why do people think I am taking the mickey?

    I only wanted to know how it was possible to work some hours and still retain the Support Group that I had to fight hard to get.

    The first reply was very helpful and has pointed me in a good direction.

    I also read from that link that the DWP may think I am better and question if I am still ill.

    So the way forward for me is to register the business in my wife's name, she does all of the typing, report preparation etc and I do the research for her as and when I am able and all of the dictation. That way I am not working at all and have no need to tell the DWP!

    I don't think it is fair that I am having those comments. This site is supposed to be here to help people like me work through the benefit system without falling foul of the DWP.
    You would be performing a Work Related Activity, which as a member of the Support Group, you have been found unfit to do, this is therefore a Change of Circumstances, that you are required to notify the DWP of.
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    60K a year minimum for working at home, doing stuff when you feel able, just compiling reports?

    Did you take over Lord Freuds job?
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • wottonby
    wottonby Posts: 88 Forumite
    You would be performing a Work Related Activity, which as a member of the Support Group, you have been found unfit to do, this is therefore a Change of Circumstances, that you are required to notify the DWP of.

    In theory yes, but everything would be registered and the work would be carried out by my wife.

    If everyone looked at it that way, you would never get people back to work!

    That is why Permitted Work, I think it is called, is there to help.
  • wottonby
    wottonby Posts: 88 Forumite
    cit_k wrote: »
    60K a year minimum for working at home, doing stuff when you feel able, just compiling reports?

    Did you take over Lord Freuds job?

    No, and who is he?

    There are many many jobs on offer in my line of work. Agencies are falling over themselves trying to find people to put into those jobs.

    I am registered with jobs on line and a couple of other online agencies, and nearly every day job opportunities come up in my area alone that pay between £40,000 and £80,000 pa!
    Even positions for teachers are available every day. I even see Teaching Assistant positions through agencies pay a min of £140 a day!!

    So no, I don't see what I have been offered as any different. If you want a link, I will pass one on to you with pleasure.
    The only real difference is that the work is done at home, instead of in an office, is self employed on a contract basis, and with the digital age, everything is accessable on the computer.
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