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MSE News: Government launches back to work programme

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  • dseventy
    dseventy Posts: 1,220 Forumite
    catwoman68 wrote: »
    It really annoys me when people also class all unemployed people in the same boat. .

    I class you as "in the same boat", the "you need a job" boat, why is anymore distinction needed?

    D70
    How about no longer being masochistic?
    How about remembering your divinity?
    How about unabashedly bawling your eyes out?
    How about not equating death with stopping?
  • dseventy
    dseventy Posts: 1,220 Forumite
    DCFC79 wrote: »
    and how long would it last when it doesnt work, they could apply for x amount of jobs but they dont even get an interview so the money used for the supervision is wasted. Some people are capable at looking for jobs because they want to find a job but the ones who should be supervised are the minority who dont job search(well they might do but make up bogus searches/ applications) and no 1 questions it.

    Having to turn up and do job seeking everyday with "all types of Job seekers" will make people sick to death of it. They will try harder for a job. For those that don't job search well, they keep coming, and coming and coming and coming.....


    D70
    How about no longer being masochistic?
    How about remembering your divinity?
    How about unabashedly bawling your eyes out?
    How about not equating death with stopping?
  • m1234w
    m1234w Posts: 47 Forumite
    So what types of jobs are going to be on offer?
  • dickydonkin
    dickydonkin Posts: 3,055 Forumite
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    edited 10 June 2011 at 3:52PM
    dseventy wrote: »
    Having to turn up and do job seeking everyday with "all types of Job seekers" will make people sick to death of it. They will try harder for a job. For those that don't job search well, they keep coming, and coming and coming and coming.....


    D70

    Out of curiosity, have you been out of work in the current climate? and please elaborate on your comment 'all types of jobseekers'

    Many people reading your posts may come to the conclusion you have not or have any idea what it is like.


    People like yourself and the dmg24 chronies who believe anyone on any kind of benefit should be shot at dawn make me sick.

    I have been there after being continuously employed for over 36 years and have come through it, although I agree that there are those that do not want to work, these are the minority and for many - your ridiculous and stupid suggestions are at best unhelpful.

    Your postings may look good to the people I described earlier - but to the majority, you are making yourself look a fool.

    You may indeed have been unemployed recently - which in that case you should know better.
    dseventy wrote: »
    I class you as "in the same boat", the "you need a job" boat, why is anymore distinction needed?

    D70


    As I stated earlier, making a fool of yourself!

    My fortune cookie said "it is time to add another poster to your ignore list"!
  • DCFC79
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    edited 10 June 2011 at 3:24PM
    dseventy wrote: »
    Having to turn up and do job seeking everyday with "all types of Job seekers" will make people sick to death of it. They will try harder for a job. For those that don't job search well, they keep coming, and coming and coming and coming.....


    D70

    im already sick to death of being out of work(its only been 2 months so not as long as others) despite applying for average of 3 jobs a week i havent got anywhere, my job searching skills arent at fault but theres competition out there.

    Im currently trying to improve my odds by trying to improve my maths and english and do the ecdl course.
  • m1234w
    m1234w Posts: 47 Forumite
    This thread isn't about supervised jobseeking it's about the Work Programme. Can we please talk about this instead of petty childish arguments about an unrelated subject.

    Thanks
  • DCFC79
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    edited 10 June 2011 at 3:35PM
    m1234w wrote: »
    This thread isn't about supervised jobseeking it's about the Work Programme. Can we please talk about this instead of petty childish arguments about an unrelated subject.

    Thanks

    it is kind of related, D70 brought up the whole supervision thing

    back to your question, it doesnt say which jobs would be created but im sure i read that G4S and another firm were involved and i know that G4S do security work for various places and they might be involved in other areas as well
  • dickydonkin
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    m1234w wrote: »
    This thread isn't about supervised jobseeking it's about the Work Programme. Can we please talk about this instead of petty childish arguments about an unrelated subject.

    Thanks

    You will find it is difficult to 'talk' over a forum.

    As for 'petty childish arguments' the subject is related as it refers to unemployed - i.e. back to work.
  • dark_lady
    dark_lady Posts: 961 Forumite
    stephyt23 wrote: »
    I agree with this. It's pretty obvious when I sign on that people have been there for a very long time as they all seem to know each other. I hate going as I hate feeling like people look at me and assume I'm just a scrounger. It all changes though once the staff realise I actually used to work for the job centre, then they suddenly realise we're not all the same.

    So you get preferential treatment when you sign on then!

    Incidentally what if some poor sod who has just been made redundant after thirty years of work,walks into the job centre to sign on and gets told he has to take part in the Work Programme from day 1. He is quite rightly going to say,What about all the National Insurance ive paid. Wont he effectively have paid for it twice,once through his NI and again when forced into doing the Work Programme to recieve his Jobseekers Allowance. Bet someone who used to work for the Job Centre wont get forced into it from day one!
  • stephyt23
    stephyt23 Posts: 852 Forumite
    dark_lady wrote: »
    So you get preferential treatment when you sign on then!

    Incidentally what if some poor sod who has just been made redundant after thirty years of work,walks into the job centre to sign on and gets told he has to take part in the Work Programme from day 1. He is quite rightly going to say,What about all the National Insurance ive paid. Wont he effectively have paid for it twice,once through his NI and again when forced into doing the Work Programme to recieve his Jobseekers Allowance. Bet someone who used to work for the Job Centre wont get forced into it from day one!

    I don't get preferential treatment at all! I just don't get looked at as a young person who is sitting on my backside all day like a lot of people my age would be looked at. They just know they don't have to talk me through as much info as everyone else as I know how the system works.
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