£80/m for soffit/guttering?

withabix

Asbokid, you are obviously lacking a basic understanding of business, employment and economics.

Where is Wale's by the way?

docmatt

withabix wrote: »

Asbokid, you are obviously lacking a basic understanding of business, employment and economics.

Have you seen his post times?

12:32hrs
01:20hrs
01:48hrs
03:21hrs
03:36hrs

Hardly the post times of a working individual is it?

Asbo, get yerself a job and we may take you even a tiny bit seriously.

plumb1_2

asbokid wrote: »

Those are all trade organisations. You paid to join them. Crucially, to gain membership, you did not have to demonstrate any competence nor indeed any level of honesty. Convicted fraudsters and half-wits are just as welcome as members, so long as they pay their subscriptions!

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asbokid, most of what you state is utter crap, £100 job my ar**, but a fair price would be about £500/600 using tradesmen.
But i do agree with some of what you say about trade organisations, many just want the cash from building firms, and they have no teeth when problems go wrong.

My advice to the OP is get 3 quotes.

mensaboy2004

I've worked in this industry or more accurately in the replacement window industry that has now diversified into "roofline" replacement. The going rate for white seems to be around £60 per metre and for wood grain effect around £80 per metre.
As one or two posters have pointed out you can buy the materials elsewhere either a DIY shop or simply do a search for pvc gutters online and then get a local handyman to fit them. It isn't rocket science and you should save around 60% on what you have been quoted.
I agree with some other posters however that companies do have overheads that need paying and as such £60 isn't too bad if you want the assurance of a reputable company. Having said that, not a lot can go wrong with Roofline anyway.
Best Wishes

rodenal

There is a mixture of good advice and rubbish floating about in this thread, i'll stick my oar in and you can make your own mind up about how valid it is.

I would pay £6.50 a meter to remove and refit upvc guttering - up that to about £9.50 if replacement is required.

Soffit renewal £6.50 / metre

Remove / replace 2 rows of slates or 1 row of tiles @ £15 / m slate £7.50 / m tile

Total (worst case) £31 / m + VAT = £37.20. Given you arent in the trade I would allow up to £45 / m for it but only if it's a bona fida company doing the work. If it's one man and his van he can get the £37, so long as he carries out that breakdown of work and no less.

£80 / m is ludicrous. Think of it this way - @ £45 a metre you'll be paying around £540, 1 man @ £15 *8 (it isn't close to an 8 hour job but lets say he spends the day) = £120
Labourer @ £7.00 *8 £56.00

Total so far £176
Materials are going to be at max £50 - probably much much less than this but again benefit of the doubt
Access - they will do this from ladders, but let's say they're bringing a tower £100
Overheads (if it's a company) 25%
Profit (private job, therefore massive) 70%

total £611.25 - and that is taking worst case in terms of cost to the company and also taking massive liberties with profit

Working on 1 man and his dog

keep labour the same £226
materials same £50
Access £0
Overheads 5% £13.80
Profit 50% £144.90
Total £ 434.70

Easy to see how you can come up with a range of prices, even taking it to the extreme I can't get close to your original quote - tell them to take a run and jump

Don't let anybody kid you on that this is a difficult or time consuming job. Decent roofers will have it done in a few hours.

docmatt

rodenal wrote: »

Materials are going to be at max £50 - probably much much less than this but again benefit of the doubt

What planet are you on? The OP is talking about full replacement here. Go and price up a replacement board (do you know what that is?), average Terraced size 225mm, then price up your eaves protection trays, your bird combs, king pins, general purpose flat boards and all the other stuff...If you can get it for £50 then i'll buy it back from you and give you a further £20.

Decent roofers will have it done in a few hours.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Are you Asbokid's dad?

Do you know how many rows of tiles have to come off to install eaves protection and bird comb?

ladders

Explain how you do the above task from ladders AND the back of the house in 'a few hours'. :A

rodenal

I have a very good idea how much the materials to complete the job the op has specified will cost, a very very good idea. You have made massive assumptions on exactly what is to be done. I also have an excellent idea how long it should take to do, you won't be removing more than 2 rows of slates or tiles, what kind of job are you thinking about here? There is nothing difficult in what the op has specified, certainly not 80 a metre worth of cost.

If you came to me with a cost like that your tender would go straight in the bin and you wouldn't receive any more

docmatt

Asbokid's_dad wrote: »

I have a very good idea how much the materials to complete the job the op has specified will cost, a very very good idea.

I know, you've already said.

I also have an excellent idea how long it should take to do

I know, you've already said, but you haven't answered my questions.



I don't want to argue anymore on this thread so I guess i'll stick to my day job and you'll stick to yours then.

martinthebandit

I have to agree there is a lot of nonsense going on in this thread and so to help I will repeat the best bit of advice that seems to be given so far

'Get three quotes'

and in my opinion the original quote does seem a little on the high side, but you will have more idea when you get two more quotes in.

Hope that helps

rodenal

I also have no interest in arguing on a thread on the internet. Our opinions appear to differ wildly, I deal with this kind of work on a daily basis as it would appear you do too, though seemingly from the other side of the fence, so to speak. Probaby best left at that.

The advice above r.e get some more quotes is the most sensible suggestion here.