Social Services - Can't work, can't claim

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If your daughters child protection plan says she is not to be left at home alone, regardless of her age or the lack of law stating otherwise, it must be complied with. Failure to comply with the plan could, in the eyes of the childrens services, be putting your child at risk. Your failure to want to protect your daughter could in the eyes of the court be enough for an emergency protection order. Which they may well be working on in preparation for their next visit.

And childrens services do not need a warrant to enter your home if they believe a child is at immediate risk within the premises, same goes for the police.

I personally do not see how your daughter can be appropriately home schooled if you meerly set her work and leave for the day. Who is there to monitor, encourage, engage and teach her the information she needs to complete the work you have set?

Pity you appear to value your own goals and objectives in your career over that of your childs safety & protection, education, their future and own goals. What were you planning to do with baby no2, surely you would be taking time off work then, or may be not?

DaisyFlower

If you earn 30k, its a good salary. Surely the best thing to do would be for your partner to quit work and care for both children unless he earns more? Or you could find a childminder to cover your hours at work - most will take on teens if asked.

GlasweJen

Could she go round to a neighbours house or something?

I'm gathering that this has went on for several months, i'm stunned that an "at risk" child has been left home alone on a daily basis for months - no wonder SS are cracking down on you.

squirrelchops

goodlife wrote: »

My career is now effectively over, I was on the sick with stress due to this for a few months, therefore had no problem attending the never ending meetings. I have been telling them since January that when I go back to work, the nature of my job means it is very, very difficult to take regular time off for meetings. They ignored this and forced entry (without a warrant) yesterday citing me 'not complying'. This non-compliance was in the past month when I told them I was back at work and could not make meetings. I had been asking them for help and understanding re. this for weeks.

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I appreciate there are never ending meetings...Child Protection Conference, monthly Core Group meetings and if they are seeking to go further with this and instigate legal action then there are the PLO meetings.

If they haven't issued you with PLO or Public Law Outline notification ie> a letter saying you need to get a solicitor as they are instigating proceedings you still have a chance before they get to this stage.

At the end of the day though when a child is in need of protection you MUST attend those meetings. This is why they are saying you are not complying with the plan. Social services departments are too busy to be having children, particularly at the age of 15 subject to plans when they don't need to be so there must be some pretty serious concerns regarding your capacity to keep her safe.

bestpud

It's telling that you mention your career and not your child's education.

There is obviously a reason she is refusing school and it seems to me this is linked with the reason for her needing an adult with her during the day.

Tbh, you cant give enough information on here, so it is futile asking, as you are obviously going to give us the better elements of this story.

You have a wage coming in from your OH so stop thinking of yourself and start being a mother.

gizmo111

And childrens services do not need a warrant to enter your home if they believe a child is at immediate risk within the premises, same goes for the police.

Social Workers have no powers to enter without an order, police do which is why they often accommpany social workers who cannot gain access to children.

OP - As your daughter is on a CP Plan then there are serious concerns, is your unborn child on the plan also? When is you daughter 16? Is she leaving school in a few weeks?

lovetowinacar

You were off sick from work for a long time and managed home schooling. Have you now returned to work recently and hence the problem that you are no longer at home with your daughter for home schooling etc?

Are you likely to leave this job since you say career over? Can you take early maternity leave so that you will be with your older dauther?

Did you take up the competition prize of the fast track hairdressing course or did you decide against this?

Once you decide what work you wish to do it might be easier to see if home schooling is a feasible option for the future or whether school attendance might be the better option.

If you earn more than your partner you might also consider he gives up to provide home schooling/child care.

goodlife

wow - obviously the request for constructive and/or positive posts went unnoticed.

Her plan does not say she should not be left at home. Her education is extremelly important, which is why I educate her myself, as EW have failed to place her in a school despite her wanting to go to school. She works for gcse's and has a curriculum tailor made to suit her abilities, needs and future career plans.

I make no apology for my career being important to me, well in truth it's not so much my career as my income, as I have a child to support. I started this thread as I have been forced into a position where I seem unable to work, or to claim benefits. I think someone mentioned looking for a childminder who would mind a 15 year old. These are extremely difficult to find, and the tax credit system does not help with childcare costs of a child of this age.

I have already stated as much as I can about why my child is on a cpp, and I believe I pointed out that it had been investigated by the police and was found to be no case to answer. The NSPCC helpline (who I was able to give more information to) agreed that it seemed like harrassment and recommended I get a solicitor urgently to fight this. The NSPCC also suggested I record every future meeting and complain to the Director for Children's Education.

Once again thank you so much to the people who have made helpful comments, to the others, well, what can I say, my original post was about what to do when you don't seem to be able to obtain any income stream what so ever. To suggest I 'stop thinking about myself and start being a mother' doesn't really serve any useful purpose does it? Surely as a mother, I could be forgiven for wanting to obtain money to feed and house my child?

iamana1ias

goodlife wrote: »

Hi everyone, Well I'm about to lose my job due to ill-health (stress related due to horrible nasty high pressured job). Been looking for a way to change my life and move forward from this mess.

Anyway - last week I won a rather strange prize - it's a fast track hairdressing course worth nearly £6000. Am absolutely delighted as its secretly what I've always wanted to do.

I therefore am hoping to live off my competition win and even have my own business and then one day even retire on it!

Good look to all!

gl xx

You earn £30k as a hairdresser?

gizmo111

I have already stated as much as I can about why my child is on a cpp, and I believe I pointed out that it had been investigated by the police and was found to be no case to answer. The NSPCC helpline (who I was able to give more information to) agreed that it seemed like harrassment and recommended I get a solicitor urgently to fight this. The NSPCC also suggested I record every future meeting and complain to the Director for Children's Education.

It's not harrassment if you are not complying with the CPP and not accepting the concerns of the LA. Just because the police had no case to answer does not mean there are no safeguarding issues. I ask again when is your daughter 16? Is your unborn child on a CP Plan?