Vent: If you want the picture to be 3D, switch the glasses on!

Azari

kajstring24 wrote: »

Anyone that's telling the OP to find a new job need to take their condescending tones elsewhere imo. We all have complaints about our jobs, it doesn't mean that we should change them. I thought this section of the forum was called 'rants?' Evidently that name is only relevant to some when it suits them...

Yes, it's clear that the OP cares about his job and wants to do it well.

These are the sort of people we need working in this environment.

He's perfectly entitled to vent here. Far batter than becoming grumpy with his customers.

Unintentional

kajstring24 wrote: »

Anyone that's telling the OP to find a new job need to take their condescending tones elsewhere imo. We all have complaints about our jobs, it doesn't mean that we should change them. I thought this section of the forum was called 'rants?' Evidently that name is only relevant to some when it suits them...

Agreed. You don't half get some stupid people in retail, people who do work in retail cannot say they haven't complained about a stupid customer before.

Has someone ask me how big a 6FT pool was the other day. Oh my life.

fluffnutter

kajstring24 wrote: »

Anyone that's telling the OP to find a new job need to take their condescending tones elsewhere imo. We all have complaints about our jobs, it doesn't mean that we should change them.

It doesn't mean we should whine about them on the internet either. Is the OP complaining about their job? Or merely people? And re. condescending... I think there was plenty of that in the original post. People aren't born with knowledge - that's why they need the help (not scorn) of the person selling the kit.

kajstring24

fluffnutter wrote: »

It doesn't mean we should whine about them on the internet either. Is the OP complaining about their job? Or merely people? And re. condescending... I think there was plenty of that in the original post. People aren't born with knowledge - that's why they need the help (not scorn) of the person selling the kit.

Yes, and I suppose the 'vent' in the name of this section refers to the things in the wall that let air in.

I also doubt that the OP talks to people in the manner in which he/she is on the thread.

Arg

vyle wrote: »

And don't take Sony glasses or Samsung glasses to a panasonic TV, of course they won't work. Do you really think they would charge so much for a pair of glasses if you could use any old 3D glasses with them?

All the glasses do is blank each lens in time with the movie,you could also buy them for PC games ages ago, so why wouldn't people assume the glasses only worked for the TV that's like saying you could only use a Sony bluray player with a Sony TV.

vyle

Arg wrote: »

All the glasses do is blank each lens in time with the movie,you could also buy them for PC games ages ago, so why wouldn't people assume the glasses only worked for the TV that's like saying you could only use a Sony bluray player with a Sony TV.

That is a fair point, though didn't you need to have the corresponding nvidia equipment to make it all work anyway, so you were roped into that method anyway?

Though in retrospect, I think my actual beef in that part of the rant was with customers taking the samsung glasses to the panasonic TVs, etc, then leaving them there. Come on, people, put stuff back where you found it! I'm forever running around trying to find the right glasses to go with the correct tv, and more often than not have to write another pair off because somebody has let their kids snap them (oh, to catch someone letting their hellspawn do that!).

I'm not asking for much, just simple courtesy to listen to a reply if you ask a question, and to respect the shop, not treat it like a random treasure hunt.

vyle

hollydays wrote: »

If someone says "are led better than lcd",surely you would need to quickly establish what benefits they wanted,at what price.You sell benefits,not features.For example with my cdplayer ipod thingy,I wanted something stylish with slimline speakers,but not the cheapest quality.I wouldnt want to know how many megawhooshes per gallon..

Allow me to put into context how this usually comes about.

Customer: What small TV would you recommend?

me: The small TVs range from 16 to 22 inches. Do you have a preference?

them: 22"

me: Then I would recommend this panasonic TV.

Them: Is it LCD or LED?

me: LCD.

Them: but LED is better isn't it?

me: It depends on the TV.

them: My son/daughter/whatever/Which? said to get LED because it's newer and better.

me: LED is generally more energy efficient and can make the picture brighter, but if you put LEDs into a rubbish TV, it's still a rubbish TV. This panasonic is a very good tv and is better than most of the others.

them: So why is that *points to a giant LED samsung tv* so expensive?

me: Because it's a very high end tv, one of the best on the market.

them: That's LED.

me: Yes, it is.

them: So LED is better?

me: It depends on the tv... it's best not to worry if it's LED or LCD. Get whichever tv has the best picture for you.

To those who say I'm in the wrong job - as I have said, on balance, I really do enjoy my job, but I am studying for a degree along with working so that I can move into a job that pays better than peanuts.

Oh, one last thing, a plea to you all - when you go into a shop, don't ask the staff if they are an 'expert,' because as one of my colleagues once replied:

If I was a computer expert, I'd be working for Google, not working in a shop.

Azari

vyle wrote: »

Allow me to put into context how this usually comes about.

Customer: What small TV would you recommend?

me: The small TVs range from 16 to 22 inches. Do you have a preference?

them: 22"

me: Then I would recommend this panasonic TV.

Them: Is it LCD or LED?

me: LCD.

Them: but LED is better isn't it?

me: It depends on the TV.

them: My son/daughter/whatever/Which? said to get LED because it's newer and better.

me: LED is generally more energy efficient and can make the picture brighter, but if you put LEDs into a rubbish TV, it's still a rubbish TV. This panasonic is a very good tv and is better than most of the others.

them: So why is that *points to a giant LED samsung tv* so expensive?

me: Because it's a very high end tv, one of the best on the market.

them: That's LED.

me: Yes, it is.

them: So LED is better?

me: It depends on the tv... it's best not to worry if it's LED or LCD. Get whichever tv has the best picture for you.

To those who say I'm in the wrong job - as I have said, on balance, I really do enjoy my job, but I am studying for a degree along with working so that I can move into a job that pays better than peanuts.

Oh, one last thing, a plea to you all - when you go into a shop, don't ask the staff if they are an 'expert,' because as one of my colleagues once replied:

If I was a computer expert, I'd be working for Google, not working in a shop.

Two comments about the above.

1) A TV isn't LED or LCD - LCD may use either cold cathode fluorescent or LED lighting so 'LED' is a type of LCD display, not an alternative.

2) The main advantage of (non edge) LED lighting is that it allows a theoretical increase in contrast as the backlighting can be dynamically controlled to a much finer degree that it can with CCFL.

Esqui

Yes, but LED TV is really a shorthand way of saying LED Backlight LCD TV. It's generally accepted at the moment...but if they make proper LED TVs, then that could get a bit confusing!

Azari

Esqui wrote: »

Yes, but LED TV is really a shorthand way of saying LED Backlight LCD TV.

That was the point I was making. It's not either/or, LED is a subcategory of LCD. (Unless, as you say, they were to actually start making 'real' LED displays of TV size.)