fake tiffany site

codger

One thing which has always puzzled me is the way these frauds depend for their income on the victim's use of a credit or debit card. This 'Tiffany' website features Visa and Mastercard icons, so isn't there some facility for filing immediate complaints to Visa and Mastercard etc???

DonnyDave

codger wrote:

One thing which has always puzzled me is the way these frauds depend for their income on the victim's use of a credit or debit card. This 'Tiffany' website features Visa and Mastercard icons, so isn't there some facility for filing immediate complaints to Visa and Mastercard etc???

I see what you mean.

It stands to reason that by reporting the fraud to your card issuer, they will notify Visa/Mastercard etc. These sorts of websites must have the mechanism in place to receive credit card payments, so in this respect, the use of the logos is OK. It's more what they do with the money; that they don't supply the goods promised.

superflygal

OH PANTS
My husband bought me something from tiffany-jewellery.co.uk as it is AOL's no.1 sponsored site, he thought it was legit! He ordered on the 15th Dec and we still haven't had the item. He spent £80!

I feel sick, I had a bad feeling about it from the start and those F****ing rip off rob dogs have taken us for a ride. WE can't afford to lob £80 down the toilet for fake tat. Please can anyone give advice??

Superflygal x

Ivrytwr3

AOL no 1 sponsored site?? AOL are supporting a fake jewellery site? If this true i'd be contacting AOL and asking them why. Further i'd be telling them that the only reason i bought from there was because i trusted AOL as a family friendly blue chip company.

C_Ronaldo

superflygal wrote:

OH PANTS
My husband bought me something from tiffany-jewellery.co.uk as it is AOL's no.1 sponsored site, he thought it was legit! He ordered on the 15th Dec and we still haven't had the item. He spent £80!

I feel sick, I had a bad feeling about it from the start and those F****ing rip off rob dogs have taken us for a ride. WE can't afford to lob £80 down the toilet for fake tat. Please can anyone give advice??

Superflygal x

id contact your card issuer as already been mentioned

superflygal

Thanks folks. Hve contacted Consumer Direct who have told me to send letter to this company quoting "my rights under the distance selling act regulations 2000 whereby the consumer has a 7 day cooling off period upon receipt of goods"

Can anyone see a hungarian crime lord being scared by a legal LETTER?

If he choses to ignore this, we then have the option to sue (great, cos thats cheap and easy)

My husband contacting the bank today. Worried that they might use details to syphon cash out of the account! What a flaming nightmare.

Superflygal x

codger

superflygal: best to check AOL is a 'sponsor' of this rip-off site first because the only AOL connection I'm aware of is 'sponsorship' of the Harlow, Essex, based Tiffany Giveaway website -- which has no connection with Tiffany (but at least 'fesses up to that.)

* whoops, posts crossed.

The Consumer Direct "advice" is about par for the course, sadly. And yes, it's complete rubbish: you're dealing with a systematic criminal scam, not a conventional seller.

However, CD is not alone in misunderstanding international fraud: the Metropolitan Police's computer crime website, no less, recommends the FBI's Internet Fraud Complaint Center as a useful 'external link' when in fact its usefulness for UK citizens is very limited: to make a complaint there it's necessary to either be a US citizen or to have been defrauded by a person or organisation situated in the US. The UK victim of an East European scam doesn't qualify.

As to the UK's protection mechanisms, the new "Get Safe Online" (brought to you by "HM Government" and other concerned sponsors) is stunningly vacuous and in essence comes down to just two recommendations for people in youtr situation:

1) Ask your card issuer to investigate (but you'd know that from asking MSErs here without resorting to HM Government's advice) and:

2) Report to the police.

What it doesn't say is that the police are unlikely to to anything at all where international Internet-related fraud is concerned.

superflygal

Thanks for your advice Codger.

Nasty business. I have reported this site to the real Tiffany's. Feel sorry for my DH as he was really proud to be getting me such a posh gift.

Checked my bank and transaction went out on 29th dec. Does anyone think bank would be able to claw payment back? (french bank)

Superflygal x

codger

superflygal wrote:

Checked my bank and transaction went out on 29th dec. Does anyone think bank would be able to claw payment back? (french bank)

Superflygal x

Definitely worth a try: a French bank might be feistier than a UK bank, though in this case any bank might adopt the standard fall-back position of stating that it, as a bank, did not enter into, nor authorise, the transaction; it wuz the bank's customer wot did it.

Lotsa luck anyway -- what's especially depressing about all this is that tiffany-jewellery is still running merrily along, secure in the knowledge that even though the Internet is hardly a novelty any more, the cyberspace economy is still as effectively policed as The Wild West.

PS: 'S bit late, I know (!) but for future protection (and if you don't want to add dedicated software to your PC) then you might like to click on this:

http://www.domaintools.com/

When it comes up, add it to the 'Links' section of Favourites -- well, assuming you're running Internet Explorer -- and then drag and drop it into the on-screen section of the Links toolbar. Then whenever you visit any website in future, just click on that Links 'button' first and it'll immediately open with the 'whois' look-up into which you can type the name of the website you may (or may not) be patronising.

superflygal

Thanks folks. Have put this down to experience.

Still haven't received the goods.

Have claimed refund on card hubby paid on, but waiting to see if it will be approved.

Thanks again, and please EVERYONE, DO NOT BUY FROM WWW.TIFFANY-JEWELLERY.CO.UK. THEY WILL ROB YOU!

RIP OFF SCUM!

Superflygal x