NO...Cyclists don't ride on pavements or jump red lights at all.

thelawnet

Blobby8 wrote: »

When in Rome

Eat pasta.

Blobby8_2

ventureuk wrote: »

I sense you are angry with the internets.

http://www.mattcutts.com/images/duty_calls.png

If you stop reading it then it all goes away.

From your previous post where you admit to endangering people with your poor roadcraft, I didnt think you had any sense at all.

Strider590

There's a chap down my street who cycles a lot at weekends, he rides past my house most Sundays, along the path from his house and out onto the road.

There's another chap in his 60's does the paper round in my street, every single morning he rides down the same path, cuts across my neighbours lawn then rides along the path up all the way up the road (literally saves less than 5 seconds).

My neighbour finally decided to do something about this (after nearly 2 years) and used to put his wheel bins blocking this little muddy rat run, so elderly gentleman got off bike, moved bins, got back on bike and carried on.
Neighbours put in some bushes, they get trashed.
Neighbour protects bushes with low mesh fence, elderly chap ploughs straight through on his bike regardless.


Now out on the road it'd be the guy in the lycra you'd be hurly abuse at! doesn't seem fair....

Blobby8_2

Strider590 wrote: »

There's a chap down my street who cycles a lot at weekends, he rides past my house most Sundays, along the path from his house and out onto the road.

There's another chap in his 60's does the paper round in my street, every single morning he rides down the same path, cuts across my neighbours lawn then rides along the path up all the way up the road (literally saves less than 5 seconds).

My neighbour finally decided to do something about this (after nearly 2 years) and used to put his wheel bins blocking this little muddy rat run, so elderly gentleman got off bike, moved bins, got back on bike and carried on.
Neighbours put in some bushes, they get trashed.
Neighbour protects bushes with low mesh fence, elderly chap ploughs straight through on his bike regardless.


Now out on the road it'd be the guy in the lycra you'd be hurly abuse at! doesn't seem fair....

Tell him to knock some one inch nails through a half inch piece of ply and cover with a thin layer of soil.

Strider590

^^ I did just that, but SHE has 2 dogs.....

So I suggested the same tactic with dog crap

Or a can of black hammerite (or any xylene based paint) emptied onto the grass/mud just before he rolls past at 5:30am :rotfl:

ventureuk

It may be semantics but if the anti pavement car lobby are so vociferous how do they get their cars from a driveway onto a road everyday ?

By driving over a pedestrian pavement and then onto a road of course.

Is cycling/driving on a pavement legal by degrees ?

'Well it's fine if a pedestrian has to stop walking on the pavement whilst I reverse the Hyundai/Rover/Ovlov/Skoda/Toy Yoda onto the road so Betty can get in and I can drive to the Bowling Club after dropping her at Whist Drive but I'll be damned if that cyclist can do it'.

Do you see how silly the argument can get.

Right off to work now, I'll be hitting a pedestrian area in about 7 minutes....

rev_henry

ventureuk wrote: »

It may be semantics but if the anti pavement car lobby are so vociferous how do they get their cars from a driveway onto a road everyday ?

By driving over a pedestrian pavement and then onto a road of course.

Is cycling/driving on a pavement legal by degrees ?

'Well it's fine if a pedestrian has to stop walking on the pavement whilst I reverse the Hyundai/Rover/Ovlov/Skoda/Toy Yoda onto the road so Betty can get in and I can drive to the Bowling Club after dropping her at Whist Drive but I'll be damned if that cyclist can do it'.

Do you see how silly the argument can get.

Right off to work now, I'll be hitting a pedestrian area in about 7 minutes....

I'm fairly sure its legal to drive across a lowered pavement to get into a driveway. Its not legal to cycle/drive up the pavement just because you feel like it. So yes, it is legal by degrees I suppose.

samba

ventureuk wrote: »

It may be semantics but if the anti pavement car lobby are so vociferous how do they get their cars from a driveway onto a road everyday ?

How many of the anti pavement car lobby park their cars half on the pavement whenever it suits them, forcing young mothers with prams and pushchairs into the road? Nobody is perfect - not cyclists, not drivers, not bikers, not pedestrians. We all do stupid selfish things and get in the way of other road users, but that's the way of the world these days - we need to learn to share the public spaces and be considerate of others safety, and forgiving of their mistakes. If a cyclist feels the need to cycle on the footpath because the road is too dangerous, then that's fine, as long as they are considerate of the needs of pedestrians, and cycle in a way that is mindful of the safety of others. However, the car drivers need to look at their own driving too, and drive in a way that allows the cyclist feel safe enough to cycle on the road.

Flyboy152

ventureuk wrote: »

It may be semantics but if the anti pavement car lobby are so vociferous how do they get their cars from a driveway onto a road everyday ?

By driving over a pedestrian pavement and then onto a road of course.

Is cycling/driving on a pavement legal by degrees ?

'Well it's fine if a pedestrian has to stop walking on the pavement whilst I reverse the Hyundai/Rover/Ovlov/Skoda/Toy Yoda onto the road so Betty can get in and I can drive to the Bowling Club after dropping her at Whist Drive but I'll be damned if that cyclist can do it'.

Do you see how silly the argument can get.

Right off to work now, I'll be hitting a pedestrian area in about 7 minutes....

rev_henry wrote: »

I'm fairly sure its legal to drive across a lowered pavement to get into a driveway. Its not legal to cycle/drive up the pavement just because you feel like it. So yes, it is legal by degrees I suppose.

Indeed it is, but only if you have a licence to do so. Many people don't bother with a applying for one, but they do break the law every time the go over the pavement.

Recently in Wembley, the local council started installing bollards across people's driveways, if they didn't have a licence, blocking them in.

Flyboy152

samba wrote: »

How many of the anti pavement car lobby park their cars half on the pavement whenever it suits them, forcing young mothers with prams and pushchairs into the road? Nobody is perfect - not cyclists, not drivers, not bikers, not pedestrians. We all do stupid selfish things and get in the way of other road users, but that's the way of the world these days - we need to learn to share the public spaces and be considerate of others safety, and forgiving of their mistakes. If a cyclist feels the need to cycle on the footpath because the road is too dangerous, then that's fine, as long as they are considerate of the needs of pedestrians, and cycle in a way that is mindful of the safety of others. However, the car drivers need to look at their own driving too, and drive in a way that allows the cyclist feel safe enough to cycle on the road.

Although I very much agree with the underlying sentiment, I have to disagree with this. How difficult is it to get off the bike and walk a few yards? By the same logic, car drivers could drive along a pavement, as long as they are considerate of the needs of pedestrians.