Council house debate

squinty

Tippytoes wrote: »

Thank you for your polite response. I'll conclude my input to this discussion by saying:

Whose percentage figures are you quoting? Official fudged/massaged figures? The same that would have the suckers believe inflation is running at 2.5 %? Don't forget, we haven't yet got to the stage where long-standing tenants are thrown out to make way for newcomers. It may well come in due course. In the meantime there is an element of waiting for older tenants to vacate properties by popping off. It is fact that a disproportionately high percentage of new builds are offered to immigrants - with just a few going to the indigenous (in case someone claims discrimination).

There are some facts and figures here if you are intererested..

http://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/132030/Factsheet_Immigration_and_housing.pdf

casualwalks

squinty wrote: »

There are some facts and figures here if you are intererested..

http://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/132030/Factsheet_Immigration_and_housing.pdf

I wish I could hit the thanks button a hundred time for this!

squinty

casualwalks wrote: »

I wish I could hit the thanks button a hundred time for this!

I'll take cash if its easier :beer:

FOURCANDLES_2

ILW wrote: »

Not if it is accurate.

Yes but most on here who say it are basing it all on assumptions .

rxbishop

Selling council houses was the worst thing thatcher did imo. Council Houses are part of the wealth of the country, people shouldn't've been allowed to buy them. It was terribly short sighted.

As Del BOy said when questioned by Rodney as to why he'd want to buy their council flat. "So we can sell it of course".

michelle1506

I don't think that people should have been able to buy up council properties, and especially not for silly sums of money. I know people that bought their council properties for next to nothing, and subsequently went on to buy really nice properties in good areas, once they sold the property they bought up dirt cheap.

rxbishop wrote: »

Selling council houses was the worst thing thatcher did imo. Council Houses are part of the wealth of the country, people shouldn't've been allowed to buy them. It was terribly short sighted.

As Del BOy said when questioned by Rodney as to why he'd want to buy their council flat. "So we can sell it of course".

FOURCANDLES_2

michelle1506 wrote: »

I don't think that people should have been able to buy up council properties, and especially not for silly sums of money. I know people that bought their council properties for next to nothing, and subsequently went on to buy really nice properties in good areas, once they sold the property they bought up dirt cheap.

Well everyone who never bought one would say that, however it is done now and very, very old news, most in decent areas have been sold on and as I have said many council houses are now owned by housing associations .#
I would also add most people ie cples etc starting out could apply for A HA home either for rent or half/buy half rent and all depends where you live, most would eventually get one . What goes on in the big city I do not know . Having watched panorama not the best programme on the planet in my view but I noticed the police officer renting his council flat out etc never faced any criminal charges etc as I have said people if they wish to get on need to be aware how to play with in the law .

19lottie82

I feel your pain. About 5 years ago, I was (as I still am) employed full time. However, as a single person, I could not afford a private let (average around £500 for a 1 bed in my area), so I was forced to “rent a room” in a shared flat, which obviously isn’t ideal. I had been in this situation for about 5 years already, and at this point was getting a bit fed up, as I really needed my own space and peace and quiet. I went to my local housing association to ask to be put on the list for a housing association property, and was told point blank that I didn’t even have enough points to be put on the list, never mind have a decent chance of getting a flat in the foreseeable future.

I find it ridiculous that the unemployed and junkies will get flats over decent people who work, will respect the flat / area, and pay their rent on time!

As most of you know, it’s the people on middle incomes that suffer the most. If you are a single person and earn, let’s say 16k, then there is a good chance you won’t be able to afford a private rent, yet you have no way of getting the 10k ish together for a deposit to buy. Arrrrrrgh! It makes me so angry! In fairness, the part ownership scheme that the government has introduced is a great idea, for people in similar situations BUT, it seems to me like most of these properties are very overpriced…..

Thankfully, due to a family inheritance a couple of years ago, my parents were in the position to help me get together a deposit to buy my own place, but I realise most people in similar situations, won’t be this fortunate. I’m 30 in a couple of months and the thought of still living in a bedsit is pretty depressing!

FOURCANDLES_2

I am confused what list? cant you just apply for one thats what I did I used to rent private same house for 15 years they asked us to leave I had been on a council list for years I asked my local councilor for help as there were a few now HA homes in the village and we wished to stay in the area, he said he would see what he could do and we were offered 4 in total and got this a 3 bed on the edge of the village and all it was was me, wife, child , both of us worked no drug problems etc just on low wages combined 22k ? I would also add I am unaware of anyone I mix with who lives in a HA on benefits and having drug problems and other moronic stereo type waffle and the like. One is a just qualified Primary teacher, one is a farm worker and one is a fireman all I can assume is they must have some funny rules in the cities.

19lottie82

FOURCANDLES wrote: »

I am confused what list? cant you just apply for one thats what I did.

Generally yes, they do just put you on a list, but with this HA, they take note of your circumstances and using this, you are given a number of points. The higher number of points you have, the more chance you have of being allocated a property. However, you need a certain number of points to even GET on the list, as if you have under this amount, there is almost no point of you getting a flat / house, so there’s no point in even putting you on it, as it would just be a waste of resources. I’m guessing this is a popular tactic with in demand areas…….