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Tories showing their true colours again.
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Can give us all an example of a government which you considered normal?
Well I can tell you something, I can't remember any government that had done so many U turns is such a short space of time.0 -
This is what the Tories are all about!
Where Labour (and even Lib Dems) genuinely care for people and improving the welfare of the less fortunate e.g. minimum wages, grants, investment in the NHS etc, the Tories have introduced top up fees, want to help rich kids get into uni, think its fine to get internships through who you know and not what you know (Cameron saying as much recently), NHS privatisation, VAT increase impacting the poor etc.....lets hope Labour get back in before its too late.0 -
Wavey Davey shows he's a lightweight yet again. How many u-turns can a politician make without looking like a complete fool? Changing your mind based on principal is one thing, collapsing like a wet tissue based on what the tiny Grauniad readership will say is quite another. Hopefully the Tory backbenchers - along with the handful of his own ministers he's humilitated for their hard thoughtful work - will get rid of this muppet asap."The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.0
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okay. so how do they select from all the people who meet the criteria at the moment? merit (e.g. those considered stronger candidates above and beyond the straight a) or names out of a hat? if it's currently on merit then the option to pay your way in still means a reduction of the meritocracy of entrance criteria on some level.
this is really confusing me now.
Basically they look at all the application forms, look at your predicted grades (or I guess nowadays they see your AS results at end of lower VIth) select all the ones which meet the standard, randomly throw half in the bin, invite the ones they like most to interview and give some of them conditional offers. They have to make more offers than places as some won't come or will miss the target grades.0 -
okay. so how do they select from all the people who meet the criteria at the moment? merit (e.g. those considered stronger candidates above and beyond the straight a) or names out of a hat? if it's currently on merit then the option to pay your way in still means a reduction of the meritocracy of entrance criteria on some level.
this is really confusing me now.
Probably a mixture of the two. Admissions tutors try to pick the better out of the straight A candidates, and usually admit that it's all a bit of a lottery now there are so many straight As at A level....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
shortchanged wrote: »Yeah right. It's another tory policy that has gone down like a lead balloon.
They've done the classic of opening the mouth before engaging the brain and not thinking of the fallout of all this.
Can this government do any more U turns?
It doesn't seem like a U-turn to me. they've been saying the same thing all day!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
curiouser and curiouser...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13343824
Universities Minister David Willetts said extra places could be funded by businesses or charities and not wealthy individuals.
But Labour's John Denham accused the government of a "humiliating u-turn".
Accusation of a climb-down, yes. But it's what he said first thing this morning on Radio 4, no change since then....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
chewmylegoff wrote: »Basically they look at all the application forms, look at your predicted grades (or I guess nowadays they see your AS results at end of lower VIth) select all the ones which meet the standard, randomly throw half in the bin, invite the ones they like most to interview and give some of them conditional offers. They have to make more offers than places as some won't come or will miss the target grades.
Ahem......and miss the bin with the applicants whose mummy and daddy cough up some cash.
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shortchanged wrote: »Ahem......and miss the bin with the applicants whose mummy and daddy cough up some cash.;)
I think the special donation phase comes after little johnny receives his rejection letter, no?0 -
The wealthy subsidising poorer people by paying higher fees is a good thing, as is mixing the wealthy with those that are less wealthy, it adds to social mobility. Another option is poorer people paying even higher fees to reduce the need for paid places. There's both swings and roundabouts.0
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