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Tories showing their true colours again.

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  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    DexterA wrote: »
    The media got hold of the wrong end of the stick, portrayed it in a bad light, and killed the policy before it began.

    Policy by tabloid. One day, I hope people become wiser, and not grasp emotive headlines without seeing the big picture.

    Yeah right. It's another tory policy that has gone down like a lead balloon.

    They've done the classic of opening the mouth before engaging the brain and not thinking of the fallout of all this.

    Can this government do any more U turns?

    If the government genuinely believed this was a good, viable policy then they should have the balls to stick with their convictions.

    What did Cameron say during the election campaign. Something along the lines of 'tough, unpopular decisions need to be made and I'm the man to do it.'

    It's almost as if they bring these things out to test out the public response and then back down when there is to much fuss.
  • DexterA
    DexterA Posts: 166 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2011 at 10:19PM
    If the government genuinely believed this was a good, viable policy then they should have the balls to stick with their convictions.

    In an ideal world I'd agree with you. In a pragmatic world, it's in the interest of a every government to stay in power first, and carry out policy it thinks right second second.
    What did Cameron say during the election campaign. Something along the lines of 'tough, unpopular decisions need to be made and I'm the man to do it.'

    All politicians are in the business of telling the electorate what they want to hear. If they don't, they don't get elected. If you can understand motives, you understand actions. If not, you look on at others actions confused.

    The rules shape the political beast.
  • Sir_Humphrey
    Sir_Humphrey Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2011 at 10:53PM
    What this was is a policy kite-flyer that has been dropped faster than a radioactive turd.

    Willetts is known as two brains. Unfortunately one of them is from a fool and he can only use one at a time.
    Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith
  • DexterA
    DexterA Posts: 166 Forumite
    "The Opposition aren't really the opposition. They are only the Government in exile. The Civil Service are the opposition in residence." Yes Minister.
  • DexterA
    DexterA Posts: 166 Forumite
    It's almost as if they bring these things out to test out the public response and then back down when there is to much fuss.

    No, that's what focus groups are for.
  • Sir_Humphrey
    Sir_Humphrey Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    DexterA wrote: »
    "The Opposition aren't really the opposition. They are only the Government in exile. The Civil Service are the opposition in residence." Yes Minister.

    It was the PM who canned the policy, he's not daft.

    I'd love to have been minuting the call he must have made to Willetts this lunchtime!
    Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    DexterA wrote: »
    No, that's what focus groups are for.

    Normally I would agree with you on this point but this government seems far from normal.
  • DexterA
    DexterA Posts: 166 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2011 at 11:22PM
    It was the PM who canned the policy, he's not daft.

    What Cameron did was sensible, given the unmoderated media frenzy.
  • Sir_Humphrey
    Sir_Humphrey Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    DexterA wrote: »
    I never said otherwise. What Cameron did was sensible, given the unmoderated media frenzy.

    No, he was sensible because it was a policy that was both stupid and very unpopular.

    Any politician who thinks that the average person in the street would like that sort of policy are in the wrong profession.
    Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith
  • DexterA
    DexterA Posts: 166 Forumite
    No, he was sensible because it was a policy that was both stupid and very unpopular.

    Why is it stupid(?), besides the media frenzy.
    Any politician who thinks that the average person in the street would like that sort of policy are in the wrong profession.

    Giving EU citizens the same opportunities as non-EUs is a good thing. The average person on the street may only read an emotive headline. Marketing is important.
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