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BBC show on council housing now - 21:00 4th May
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Are we really this stupid.
Fact: In 1971 Sheffield built 2,000 council houses, in 2010, 83.
BBC Explanation: Right-to-buy
Now I am not saying that RTB has not reduced the number of social housing properties but I can't see how it has resulted in fewer council houses being built?Next question, if you are in a private rental costing 800 pcm and an equivalent council rental is 400pcm why would you not go on to the council waiting list? Is it any surprise the waiting list is so long if you get the same for less in a council rental?
Have I misunderstood something?
Council Housing was funded & built by LA's.
The money from RTB has always gone directly to Central Government, ever since the 80's. Not one penny of the money from RTB has been re-invested in social housing (either via HA's or LA's).
Ever since the introduction of RTB, a system which has been manipulated and abused, no government has (imo) had a coherent housing policy. As a result, we have social LL's with massive waiting lists, and a privately rented sector which has a proportion of sub standard properties and LL's (please note the word proportion in that sentence).
IMO, & without writing a treatise, having a coherent housing policy would go a long way towards tackling a great number of additional social issues which so many people are faced with.It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.0 -
It's the sense of entitlement that I find rather annoying.0
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Could I just point out that working people also live in social housing....just in case this fact has been forgotten.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
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It's the sense of entitlement that I find rather annoying.
Me too, it seems some people think it's the government's problem rather than their own. There seems to be a benefit culture.Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop0 -
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It wasn't exactly said...but it has been hinted.
Plus, that fact does tend to be forgotten when discussions re social housing are ongoing, so I was just posting a reminder in case it is assumed by a few posters that social housing is only those on are on benefits.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
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It wasn't exactly said...but it has been hinted.
Plus, that fact does tend to be forgotten when discussions re social housing are ongoing, so I was just posting a reminder in case it is assumed by a few posters that social housing is only those on are on benefits.
I think that is part of the problem in that social housing has been abused over the years.
Social housing should be for people who work but are on low incomes and people who cannot work due to illness and disability.
The system has undoubtably been abused by youngsters getting pregnant over the years to get social accommodation but the problem is how do you stop this because it is the poor innocent child that is brought into the world that suffers.
The social housing system should not be a place to house people who cannot be ars*d to work.0 -
shortchanged wrote: »I think that is part of the problem in that social housing has been abused over the years.
Social housing should be for people who work but are on low incomes and people who cannot work due to illness and disability.
The system has undoubtably been abused by youngsters getting pregnant over the years to get social accommodation but the problem is how do you stop this because it is the poor innocent child that is brought into the world that suffers.
The social housing system should not be a place to house people who cannot be ars*d to work.
Hostels for single mothers (not divorced etc), not nearly as attractive a prospect as the thought of a nice council flat once you have a baby. I would suspect that it would make many think twice.0 -
Well if there weren't a housing shortage- not specifically social housing, just too few buildings in the u.k- which the bbc expert interviewed toward the end blamed for the 'hidden households' of healthy, working age, but unemployed young men and families they would all be comfortably sheltered to the same standard as a wage-earner.
I don't expect many here will agree, but if that is the definition of an adequate supply of housing- then there can never be enough building. Could the apparrent shortage then be defined as a statisistical measurement of the discrepancy between expected and actual standards of living amongst low and no wage earners?
It would certainly help to explain Rightmoves bloated inventory during what is reported as a critical shortage.
I know, I know, mortgage rationing etc.0
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