Shared Pipes and low water flow

peterbaker

Which Chuckle Brother are you this time, deanos ? Must've been your brother who posted earlier - now we're talking .... to me, to you - up a bit - and a bit more :money:

Jupiter, if you have a group of OAP neighbours whom you know are suffering like you, then again, the Adult Care Team at the Council might be interested. They are very hot on making sure senior citizens are easily able to wash and shower and quite right too.

We are miles behind real first world countries on some really basic things. In a country only twice as far as the crow flies from me in London as Cornwall is , where I was last weekend, individual houses do not need boilers because all the hot water is piped at a constant 60 degrees Celsius in highly maintained insulated pipes in the street. It is sold effectively by the cubic meter except it has an assumed energy content based on it being returned to the system at depleted 34 degrees I think. The energy content is charged at about 8p per kWh. The cold supply is simply charged at about £7 per cubic metre and that includes the sewerage charge. The hot water is used to heat the houses with underfloor heating in almost every room in every house whether built last year or last century.

And the sewers are maintained to such a high standard that if you dont read the warning notices they post two days before you could get a blast of warm bubbled air up the jacksie from the monster machine 300 yards away plugged into the system keeping the drains clear and shipshape in every street. Seriously ! Happened to a 17 year old friend who let his Mum & Dad deal with the notices and got the all clear where he was least expecting it when he had just settled down to giving his very best impression of "The Thinker" one morning after a lie-in :rotfl:

deanos

I was just stating the facts, they are legal that's how houses were built back then and are not any longer

Jupiter1

Hi deanos,

We had a plumber around who already tested it and spoke also to South West Water, he told them that we sometimes do not even have one bar water pressure. They said that they only have to make sure that they provide a certain water pressure at their main pipe not at my house. If I am without water it would be not their problem. That is what they said to me and that is even what the Consumer Council for Water said to me. So if you are without Water and you cannot afford to get pipes sorted out who are not even on your property then it is your problem. I feel like living at medieval times.

eeeeeee

that is correct the clo would come too the boundary of house no1 test too see if the water is there and then walk away if it is leaving you with no supply ; csp ... common supply pipes are a private issue belonging jointly and equally too all of those properties that are connected too it;
even if you have a sole supply fitted directly too the mains ; you cant just cut off or remove an old csp if other properties could be affected you have too leave the csp live and in situe until every single property is on sole useage

Jupiter1

eeeeeee wrote: »

that is correct the clo would come too the boundary of house no1 test too see if the water is there and then walk away if it is leaving you with no supply ; csp ... common supply pipes are a private issue belonging jointly and equally too all of those properties that are connected too it;
even if you have a sole supply fitted directly too the mains ; you cant just cut off or remove an old csp if other properties could be affected you have too leave the csp live and in situe until every single property is on sole useage

I sorted all my pipes out which entered my property all the other ones are on other properties. I really question this rule or regulation or what ever that is. I cannot start digging in other people's garden and I cannot see why I have to do this? I cannot even insure these pipes which are not on my property and when you have a neighbour who does not want to dig in your garden, you have a huge problem. How can I get charged for such a nonsense service this is absolutely madness. I really would like to know which law is actually backing these water companies up not even the water inspector could tell me.

deanos

If you neighbour wont let anyone dig in the garden how would the water company lay a pipe ?

Jupiter1

Peter, you make me laugh. I am originally come from Germany and the law for these companies there are totally different, over there the water company has to make sure you have water and you are only responsible for the pipes after the water metre. My husband who is English cannot even believe that this kind of rule exists in England. But it is definitely worth trying the Adult Care Team to put them on it. On Friday the team manager for South West Water will come around. I already spoke to my neighbours and some of them will turn up too, have a look what South West Water have to offer then.

Sugardonut

Jupiter, i know it's an upsetting situation, more so because of the fact it will cost money to fix. However, your water company is quite right in what they are advising you. Any company in the UK will advise the same thing - its the law, set by the UK governement.

As galling as it is for you, i'd advise you not to waste your time trying to get them to change their mind - it's a lost cause. You will only waste time and energy and get yourself worked up for longer.

Is there nothing you can do to spread the cost - are there any grants you can get?

Jupiter1

deanos wrote: »

If you neighbour wont let anyone dig in the garden how would the water company lay a pipe ?

Exactly that is my thought too. These so called water supply pipes are from believe it or not 1943. They are iron pipes. I just changed mine on my property and believe me they will burst in a minute, it is a surprise that any water even comes up our way.

The only answer I got from this lovely (not really:D) water inspector was that I would have to sue my neighbour, that will be very great, ey? :eek:

Jupiter1

Sugardonut

Hi, this is a link to what OFWAT say:

http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/consumerissues/rightsresponsibilities/supplypipes/prs_inf_respipes