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            Sir_Roger_deLodger wrote: »Because council tickets have an independent appeals process. Yours don't.
They will now, thanks to the BPA's usual foot-in-mouth approach (see above). Whether it will be fully independent time will tell. But then there is always the County Court.0 - 
            ripped_off_driver wrote: »Ha, ha very good they do like to keep us amused these PPC morons.
In fact if this idiot had been following what has happened in Committee he would know that the introduction of Schedule 4 is now delayed until there is an independent nationwide appeal system in place. The law of unintended consequences rides again.
While the BPA will say that they favour an independent appeal, this is bad news for them. The appeal body will not be able to fetter the right of the motorist to have the matter tried in court. They will also not be able to prevent the motorist appealing to the independent body and then refusing to pay, forcing the PPC to litigate. Two bites of the cherry. Thanks for that BPA!
In addition the government has been crystal clear in committee that the RK if he can be made liable will only be liable to the extent that the driver was. In other words, not at all.
So there you have it PPC imbeciles. Keeper liability was never going to solve your problems and if I was you I would be asking searching questions of the people who told you that it would. No doubt in a few years you will think up some other wheeze, meanwhile the numbers of people paying these begging invoices will only go one way.
I can assure you that an independant appeals process will be in place before the end of this year, before anyone asks I know as I have been part of the process.
As of writing you are misguided in your information on the role of the appeals process and how binding it is on either party before they enter into it, but I will post further details as they are finalised.
Please no insults, if you can not enter into a conversation without name calling then maybe you should refrain from participating.0 - 
            Sir_Roger_deLodger wrote: »Because council tickets have an independent appeals process. Yours don't.
An appeal will only be upheld if the ticket was found to be incorrectly issued.
Use the example, a "free" council car park has a clear sign on the entrance stating 30minutes ONLY and a vehicle is observed as being there for 45minutes a ticket is issued.
There are no grounds to appeal it, so a private car park the same rules should and will apply.
More details on the appeals process will be known around August.0 - 
            Schedule4Rules wrote: »An appeal will never be upheld if the ticket was found to be issued.
Use the example, a "free" PPC car park has a sign 30 feet up on a telephone pole near the entrance stating 30minutes ONLY and a vehicle is observed as being there for 29 1/2 minutes a ticket is issued.
There is no real appeals process, so a private car park will apply whatever rules suit their own purpose.
More details on the "appeals process" will be known around August.
Fixed that for you.
I don't think you're going to get any sympathy around here Schedule4Rules, not sure why you bothered posting at all.Dec GC; £208.79/£220
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            mcjordi is still waiting for his link.....Went shoplifting at the Disneystore today.
Got a huge Buzz out of it.0 - 
            Schedule4Rules wrote: »I can assure you that an independant appeals process will be in place before the end of this year, before anyone asks I know as I have been part of the process.
As of writing you are misguided in your information on the role of the appeals process and how binding it is on either party before they enter into it, but I will post further details as they are finalised.
Please no insults, if you can not enter into a conversation without name calling then maybe you should refrain from participating.
Yeah right Perky. You are right at the heart of it. That's why you failed to mention the independent appeal in your moronic first crowing post. Then has the gall to tell others to avoid insults. With ace negotiators like you on its side PPCdom need not be worried.
At the end of the day it has backfired for the BPA. They wanted keeper liability hoping that this would solve all their problems. It would never have done this and will not do so. Now they are having to accept the concept of an independent appeal. If the RK decides not to pursue the appeal the PPC still needs to go to court.
The advice on these sites will not change - ignore. Except it may now be the RK that ignores. There is no chance of large scale litigation and if the appeal system is as one sided as our friend implies then no-one will use it.
End result - if anything slightly worse for the PPCs.0 - 
            
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            Fixed that for you.
I don't think you're going to get any sympathy around here Schedule4Rules, not sure why you bothered posting at all.
I really dont see the point in your post (in so much as changing my original message), was it some attempt at being funny ? If so you failed.
I posted as an independant appeals process will be good for the consumer and I am sure this is what everyone wants and after all this site is all about the consumer.0 - 
            Sir_Roger_deLodger wrote: »The online dating sites must be quiet today.
or the greasy spoon empty?0 - 
            
Whereas you're a laugh a minute. Take a chill pill Looplotty.Schedule4Rules wrote: »I really dont see the point in your post (in so much as changing my original message), was it some attempt at being funny ? If so you failed.0 
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