Daughters horse hit a car

skiddlydiddly

Many a true word spoken in jest, I bet the hose has pretty high cc02 emissions too with all the gas it produces.

cardinalbiggles

HalfPint wrote: »

had to respond to this...I agree that common sense should prevail and a nervous young horse or a horse with no traffic experience should not be ridden on a busy road, but the opposite is also true, that too many drivers in this country do not give horses enough space on the roads. A horse, like any other animal, will spook/flee/jump/take fright at some point and both riders and drivers need to be aware of this.

HP x

I agree with you totally, I am a cyclist and cars dont always give me a wide enough berth!

Lum

Bigmoney2 wrote: »

Road tax is actually vehicle excise duty and is determined by the vehicles C02 emmissions, so some cars are exempt due to their low emmisions rate, horses and cyclists would also fall into this bracket. It is not a tax for using the road.
Jules

Methane is a significantly worse greenhouse gas than CO2.

HalfPint wrote: »

in your scenario, the rider should trot on and pull into a gateway, passing place or layby to allow you to pass safely and, thank you for being a patient and considerate driver.

In all my encounters with horse riders over the years (and there have been many) that has happened exactly once. I count it as the exception rather than the norm.

I have to sit way back because horses really don't like the sound of my engine at idle, and I have to creep behind them at idle with my foot on the brake in order to match speed.

cardinalbiggles

Littlemissteapot wrote: »

IMO - It's not your fault, the driver is at fault 100% as they were overtaking and it is the responsibilty of the person overtaking to ensure that they do so safely and without incident.

Not quite, you should take all reasonable care, if the horse decides to do something stupid you can only try your best not to collide with it.

You cant turn round and say you are not reponsible for your horse much as you cant say its your dogs fault for biting someone. If that was happening to me I would be taking civil action against the horse owner were they not paying up.

I must stay in control of my car you must control your horse, if its near people or on the public highway.

Littlemissteapot

cardinalbiggles wrote: »

Not quite, you should take all reasonable care, if the horse decides to do something stupid you can only try your best not to collide with it.

You cant turn round and say you are not reponsible for your horse much as you cant say its your dogs fault for biting someone. If that was happening to me I would be taking civil action against the horse owner were they not paying up.

I must stay in control of my car you must control your horse, if its near people or on the public highway.

I see your view but disagree slightly. You should not overtake when you might come into conflict with other road users (Highway code 167 and 215). Clearly the driver came into conflict with the horse whilst overtaking. So my view is still 100% the drivers responsibility as you should only overtake when it is safe to do so. It seems he mis-judged how safe it was to overtake that particular horse/rider as well as the gap he should have given the horse in order to make a safe overtaking manoeuver.

skiddlydiddly

Horses that are incapable of being kept in control and passed by traffic should be kept away from the roads altogether.Are we all supposed to stay behind every horse just in case its a crazy one(pun hahahah) and let the traffic just keep building up behind it until they turn off?If not then the owners are willingly taking a hazard onto the road and are a danger to everyone else.

Still, at least they get their nice little trot, eh?

Strider590

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

Horses that are incapable of being kept in control and passed by traffic should be kept away from the roads altogether.Are we all supposed to stay behind every horse just in case its a crazy one(pun hahahah) and let the traffic just keep building up behind it until they turn off?If not then the owners are willingly taking a hazard onto the road and are a danger to everyone else.

Still, at least they get their nice little trot, eh?

I can't disagree, I don't think our roads are any place for horses anymore.

But as for being incapable of being kept in control, it's no worse than drivers who are incapable of actually driving.

skiddlydiddly

Let those drivers share the bridle paths with the horses then Strider, it might get a bit crowded though.

ROY47

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

Let those drivers share the bridle paths with the horses

NO NO NO

keep the bridle paths for the horses where they belong NOT on public roads

why can't they keep to fields where they belong , if I decided to drive across the fields where horses are kept ,there would be he.. to play

if they were meant to go on roads they'd have indicators and brake lights

plus if your dog cr... on the road you must clean it up ,if a horse does it you lot just leave the smelly stuff there

paddedjohn

Times have changed and there is no place on our roads for horses. They are not a viable means of transport anymore and should be kept in fields where the ground is softer for them,if you want your fun on your horsey then go in the fields out of everyones way. Maybe if this happened, the need to nail pieces of iron to their feet could done away with as they wouldnt need to be walking on tarmac or concrete.