Daughters horse hit a car

asbokid

mumps wrote: »

On lanes near where I live it can be very difficult to pass horses as the lanes are narrow, I have had grief from riders when I have..been ignored by two riders riding next to each other and effectively blocking the road

"The Highway Code advises that riders never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on busy or narrow roads and when riding round bends."

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/horse-rider-liability/

HalfPint

mumps wrote: »

On lanes near where I live it can be very difficult to pass horses as the lanes are narrow, I have had grief from riders when I have waited for a wide enough space to pass a horse (they didn't like me being behind them, leaving a fair space and driving slowly and just waiting for somewhere to pass) been ignored by two riders riding next to each other and effectively blocking the road and having quite young children struggling to control an animal they clearly couldn't control. I have nothing against horses or riders but I had to pass a test and get insurance not to mention road tax to drive on the road and yet I see these horses and riders and sometimes they seem like an accident waiting to happen. I don't want to see an accident happen but I am sure it is not rare.

I quite agree Mumps...unfortunately for us "decent and sensible riders" who do spend time and money taking an exam, the riders who are rude and inconsiderate and inexperienced give us all a bad name. IMO Children should not be riding on a road unaccompanied by an adult (and thats from both a riders and drivers point of view)

Sometimes you will find 2 riders riding abrest on a road, that should only be because the horse on the inside needs to have the confidence and assurance of his partner, and both riders should be wearing appropriate vests. They should still be considerate to drivers and let them pass at the earliest, and safest, opportunity.

Like all things, it's a two way street (pardon the pun:rotfl:)

HP x

ROY47

Hintza wrote: »

The car driver will have to claim negligence on the part of the rider to have any chance of winning a claim.

are you joking ??

the horse kicked the car!!!!! negligence on the part of the rider for not having proper control of the animal in my untrained legal eye

just like a car crashing in to it , driver would be done for not having proper or correct control of the vehicle

too much lawyer speak in them words of yours

Yorkie1

ROY47 wrote: »

are you joking ??

the horse kicked the car!!!!! negligence on the part of the rider for not having proper control of the animal in my untrained legal eye

just like a car crashing in to it , driver would be done for not having proper or correct control of the vehicle

too much lawyer speak in them words of yours

So at what point, if ever, does it in your view become the driver's fault for spooking the horse rather than you assuming it's the rider's fault? When the driver blows their horn? Or streaks past in an overtaking manoeuvre? Or tailgates the horse in contravention of the Highway Code?

The OP stated that the car was being driven too closely. This would appear to have some factual and evidential substance; if it was being driven a safe distance away, it would not have been in kicking distance.

To take your analogy with a car. If a car tailgates another vehicle, and damage results because they were too close, the tailgating driver is the one who is liable.

asbokid

Yorkie1 wrote: »

So at what point, if ever, does it in your view become the driver's fault for spooking the horse rather than you assuming it's the rider's fault? When the driver blows their horn? Or streaks past in an overtaking manoeuvre? Or tailgates the horse in contravention of the Highway Code?

The OP stated that the car was being driven too closely. This would appear to have some factual and evidential substance; if it was being driven a safe distance away, it would not have been in kicking distance.

To take your analogy with a car. If a car tailgates another vehicle, and damage results because they were too close, the tailgating driver is the one who is liable.

What if the car was parked with its engine turned off, and yet the horse still kicked out and wrecked the panelling?

You would think that in the circumstances, the horse rider must be negligent. Yet apparently not..

"I had just taken delivery of a brand new car. It was parked on the road outside my house. Three quarters of an hour later, a Lady knocked at the door. She said that she, along with three other riders had gone past my car. Her horse had became spooked and started to back up and kick out. It caused substantial damage to my car.

The horse rider, Lady Sarah, said, “Don't worry Gill, I'm insured.”. This happened back in February. Her insurance company recommended by the British Horse Society, said “how can we hold the rider negligent when she did everything she could to control the horse?", and, "you can't take a horse to court! Snarf! Snarf!”

It seems very unfair that I should have to foot the bill for the hundred pounds excess...."

Hintza

Quite a few of you are showing very little consideration for other road users. Sure horses can be a pain but you don't come across them very often on A roads so a little patience and thought would go a long way. I for one choose a route avoiding A roads at all costs.

System

Where do A roads come into it?

photome

Hintza wrote: »

Quite a few of you are showing very little consideration for other road users. Sure horses can be a pain but you don't come across them very often on A roads so a little patience and thought would go a long way. I for one choose a route avoiding A roads at all costs.

You wouldnt get very far in Norfolk then, and I often see horses, never had a problem and on reading all the above I hope I never do

Strider590

ROY47 wrote: »

are you joking ??

the horse kicked the car!!!!! negligence on the part of the rider for not having proper control of the animal in my untrained legal eye

However in physical terms a horse can only move it's leg's forward and backward, they have no twist or sideways movement, much like a dog.

You'd have to get pretty f**king close for it to kick your car.

photome

I keep reading about the horse kicking the car. It didnt, it backed in to the car !