The rental trap

DervProf

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

You never see the decent tradesman on the tv who then go and fix the work that the cowboys have done and charge next to nothing for their services do you, me and many others do this on occasions because we like you are disgusted at how some cowboys rob people blind and consequently make us all look like common thieves.

:T

Well said. Very well said.

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Yes i know many a rip off merchant and decent tradesmen like myself do not have anything to do with them, they dont get recommended for private work and they dont get recommended for jobs when firms are taking on , they are generally one man bands. The reason they are one man bands is because no decent tradesman will work with them.

You never see the decent tradesman on the tv who then go and fix the work that the cowboys have done and charge next to nothing for their services do you, me and many others do this on occasions because we like you are disgusted at how some cowboys rob people blind and consequently make us all look like common thieves.

Plumbers or any other tradesman can easily earn thousands of pounds a week and this is generally the case during the boom periods due to the fact that every tradesman knows its not going to be long before the bust arrives so they need to get some money earned now to cover themselves through the bust period.
The majority of the people i know within the construction industry hate the boom and bust cycle and would much prefer to work at a normal steady pace earning a normal steady wage year in year out, the problem is we dont get a say in the matter, its just the old boom and bust cycle that we on the tools can do nothing about.

So what you are saying is that hiring a British workman is no guarantee that you won't get shoddy, sub-standard work at extortionate prices. Seems at odds with your comments in your earlier post.

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

(I also told you where to find filmed evidence)

And I did the same for you.

dawyldthing

Could you move to a different part of the country. I doubt you'd get a cardboard box for 60k in London but if you moved to the midlands or up North there are a fair few houses for less than 60k, some are also not bad houses

Jimmy_31

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

So what you are saying is that hiring a British workman is no guarantee that you won't get shoddy, sub-standard work at extortionate prices. Seems at odds with your comments in your earlier post.



And I did the same for you.

Hiring any person to do any type of work wont get you any guarentees of quality work. Hiring somebody who has spent years in their type of work and has gained many happy customers and built up a good reputation will get you a guarentee of quality work.

in my earlier post i was talking about contracted work that has to be passed by a clerk of works so shoddy work gets you sacked, then you decided to refer to plumbers robbing little old ladies, nobody checks their work so its two completely different situations.

in Contracted work a useless tradesman will last no more than 1 day on site wether he is british polish or whatever (unless its a dodgy site with backhanders dictating the quality of the work, which is where a lot of the problems in the industry lie), in private work a job can take less than a day to complete so the brit,pole, or whoever can take the money and run.

Like i said my firm doesnt employ immigrants because they have had too many problems with the speed and quality of their work in the past, thats why i consider myself lucky because i know i am not going to be replaced by somebody who has been on a course for a fortnight and is now a tradesman. I know this because i dont work for a dodgy firm who operate the backhander policy.

I think you know the point im trying to make dont you, why should a british worker lose their job to a foreign worker, its just wrong in my eyes but thats the way i see it.

(i know you did)

Procrastinator333

Cleaver wrote: »

Hi Taughmon and welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear you had trouble posting and that you're not enjoying renting. I was just posting to say that you might want to have a chat with The_Fox, who is another poster on this site. You have very, very similar opinions and posting styles so you'll probably get on. In fact, for a few minutes I thought you were the same person, but I remember The_Fox saying that he's been married in the past, whereas you haven't, and you're also different ages. But the similarities are uncanny and rather eeire. See what you think.

You both start posts with 'Hi All'




You both use a style where you rant in lowercase, then in uppercase:




You both use the phrase "mmmm" at the end of sentences:




You both talk about renting having a "spivy" element:




You both use '***' for swearing instead of letting the MSE filter pick it up:




You both seem to have a bit of a thing for talking about others buying ex-council houses, and neither of you use a hypen:




You both talk about MPs and how they have a vested interest in all this. Even more interesting is that you both use an apostrophe when you use the term MPs, which isn't needed in this context as neither of you are talking about the MPs owning anything.




Isn't that all very odd? It's like you're the same person or something.

BUSTED! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

taughmon

Procrastinator333 wrote: »

BUSTED! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Oh really, lol

Some of you guys on here really are tortured little souls, at the very least you have too much time on your hands

Wee_Willy_Harris

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Hiring any person to do any type of work wont get you any guarentees of quality work.

Agreed

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Hiring somebody who has spent years in their type of work and has gained many happy customers and built up a good reputation will get you a guarentee of quality work.

Um, but you just said.......

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Hiring any person to do any type of work wont get you any guarentees of quality work.

This would be a lot easier if you just made up your mind.

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

I think you know the point im trying to make dont you, why should a british worker lose their job to a foreign worker, its just wrong in my eyes but thats the way i see it.

So, you want to hide behind some sort of protectionism policy now? Never mind getting the best man for the job, check his passport?

Procrastinator333

taughmon wrote: »

Oh really, lol

Some of you guys on here really are tortured little souls, at the very least you have too much time on your hands

So for the 4th time of asking. Why were you rejected for a mortage?

Or pehaps you ignore all of my posts because there is no answer. You are trolling. And you have been well and truly busted. Now let this user ID die and come back again in a day or 2 with something new. But please, put a bit more effort in next time.

Sibley

So for the 4th time of asking. Why were you rejected for a mortage?

Or pehaps you ignore all of my posts because there is no answer. You are trolling. And you have been well and truly busted. Now let this user ID die and come back again in a day or 2 with something new. But please, put a bit more effort in next time

Look, he hasn't got a deposit really. He spends his money on cigarettes, drink and down the betting shop.

Probably works as a security guard on minimum wage as well.

Instead of going to night school and learning something that would give him a better future he prefers to come on here and have a go at people who have worked hard and own a house.

Jimmy_31

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

Agreed



Um, but you just said.......



This would be a lot easier if you just made up your mind.



So, you want to hide behind some sort of protectionism policy now? Never mind getting the best man for the job, check his passport?

Right im guessing your a very picky person like a few on here, what i meant to say was if you hire any person, as in you know just anybody or you know just any old person, ad out the paper, ad in a shop window, getting the number of the side of a van, then you are taking a risk because you know nothing about the quality of their work.

I will clear the next bit up for you as well, you call it protectionism, i call it, me putting myself through an apprentiship, gaining all the relevant qualifications, investing thousands and thousands of pounds in tools,working hard and producing high standards of work for every firm or customer ive worked for,never missing a days work,taking pride in my work and then turning up for work on monday morning and being told i no longer have a job because its now gone to a foreigner who has just been on a two week course and is now just as good a tradesmen as you are and will work for a good few quid an hour less than you.

Luckily it hasnt happened to me yet but has happened to people i know.

Like i said i do not think it is right that somebody in their own country can lose their job to somebody who isnt from this country and is not properly qualified to do the job, fair enough if there are plenty of jobs available for everybody and the people who want to work over here can actually do the job then fine i dont see the problem in that.

Dont think you can try and make me look like some evil racist and make me feel guilty for my views on the subject because i dont, so yes if two men are available for work in britain and they are both qualified and competent in their field of work and there is only one job, then imho the british man should get the job and not somebody from another country whos sole purpose of coming to the country was to make money off the back of a boom.