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  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    pbouk wrote: »
    yes and i know alot more white english people who are the same and have never worked a day in their lives and have no intention of doing so, but that doesnt mean we have to tar others with the same brush.


    Yes i know plenty of WHITE (why you mentioned white i dont know), british scroungers who are playing the system and getting away with it. (I went to school with most of them in my area)


    I stated that some immigrants who live around me do nothing and get paid for it.
  • Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    No that isnt the case that i see, in the past on various sites for various firms blah blah blah blah substandard work blah blah blah blah unqualified blah blah blah blah not used to working our way blah blah blah blah cheap as chips blah blah blah blah pay peanuts etc etc etc.

    Chanel 4 put your theory to the test. Watch and enjoy...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHAIPH2h0vU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-NCJKNQEHk&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgGsCfCA0gE&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge4yd-IYZz0&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h355qYBo1M&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptF-Sp6s03E&feature=related
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    diable wrote: »
    What benefits is this made up from and where does he come from?

    I have seen immigrant familys move onto the estate i live on and get their keys to their new house that has just been decorated throughout and had new fitted carpets in every room, then the van turns up with their new furniture that the government provides for them which consists of beds,matresses,bedding,wardrobes,chest of drawers,dining table and chairs,3 piece suite,curtains,fridge,cooker,washing machine and other things that i cant quite remember at the moment. All this is provided at no cost to the new tenannts.

    Fast forward a few days and skytv will be fitted and then comes the big dish for getting the channels that skytv doesnt broadcast, you may have seen these dishes because they are very big, so once the dish is bolted to the house the family is now all set to sit down and relax.

    Familys like this are dotted around my estate and have lived here now for a few years and i presume they are getting benefits because none of them are working so are somehow managing to feed and clothe themselves.

    Its a strange sight to see when one of these new familys turn up and the british scroungers on my estate who have never once had a job start sla66ing them off once they see all the free furniture turn up, you can generally hear things like why the f**k should they get all this stuff when we get nothing. a free house and benefits is apparently not enough for the british scroungers on my estate as they now want some free curtains as well
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    edited 24 April 2011 at 7:33PM
  • taughmon wrote: »
    Today i have a 13/15% deposit, i cannot get a mortgage, but of course i am trusted in society to pay for the rent of a similar property.

    Still don't understand why you cannot get a mortgage with this deposit. You need to provide more information about your financial position to get some help. Try the Mortgages and Endowment Board.
  • Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    Its not a theory.

    Quite. It was anecdotal evidence. I've linked to filmed evidence.
    Jimmy_31 wrote: »
    Also you are quite welcome to type polish plumbing disaster into youtube and see the quality of work that i have seen in the past.

    One of the reasons for there being so many Polish plumbers here is that at one time, in the not to distant past, plumbers were earning more than surgeons. Sadly the (predominantly British) rip off merchants still appear regularly on consumer based TV programmes today, robbing little old ladies left, right and centre. I think your industry still has a long way to go before dealing with a foreign labour force becomes the priority issue.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Hi Taughmon and welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear you had trouble posting and that you're not enjoying renting. I was just posting to say that you might want to have a chat with The_Fox, who is another poster on this site. You have very, very similar opinions and posting styles so you'll probably get on. In fact, for a few minutes I thought you were the same person, but I remember The_Fox saying that he's been married in the past, whereas you haven't, and you're also different ages. But the similarities are uncanny and rather eeire. See what you think.

    You both start posts with 'Hi All'
    taughmon wrote: »
    Hi All
    The_Fox wrote: »
    Hi All

    You both use a style where you rant in lowercase, then in uppercase:
    The_Fox wrote: »
    IHouses that are not having the mortgage paid still be prevented from repossesion because of the poor homeowner, WHAT ABOUT THE POOR NEVER WAS A HOMEOWNER THAT WANTS TO BE ONE.
    taughmon wrote: »
    The whole system today seems to be against hard working types that just do not have the time with there jobs to pay the speculative property game, WE JUST WANT HOMES FOR OURSELVES AND FAMILIES.

    You both use the phrase "mmmm" at the end of sentences:
    taughmon wrote: »
    putting roofs over the heads of the British people is second to holding speculative profits by those who already own, people such as MP's, mmmm.
    The_Fox wrote: »
    As for the last part of your post, mmmm.....

    You both talk about renting having a "spivy" element:
    taughmon wrote: »
    Renting in this country just has far too much of a spivy element to it(not all).
    The_Fox wrote: »
    what i don't want is it being owned by spivy gangsters

    You both use '***' for swearing instead of letting the MSE filter pick it up:
    taughmon wrote: »
    d***
    The_Fox wrote: »
    p****d

    You both seem to have a bit of a thing for talking about others buying ex-council houses, and neither of you use a hypen:
    taughmon wrote: »
    And i just get the sneaking feeling you are probably the type that could well have purchased their ex council house
    The_Fox wrote: »
    I am not sure what your take is on all this, whether you have purchased you ex council house

    You both talk about MPs and how they have a vested interest in all this. Even more interesting is that you both use an apostrophe when you use the term MPs, which isn't needed in this context as neither of you are talking about the MPs owning anything.
    taughmon wrote: »
    but putting roofs over the heads of the British people is second to holding speculative profits by those who already own, people such as MP's
    The_Fox wrote: »
    We are not building in this country, we allow speculators to play about with our homes like some kind of monoply game, MP's included.

    Isn't that all very odd? It's like you're the same person or something.
  • doire_2
    doire_2 Posts: 2,280 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    taughmon wrote: »
    Are you for real?

    I am sorry i have just come on here to articulate a few concerns of mine, and probably many thousands of others as well.
    You do not know me from Adam, so if you actually want a swinging d*** competion on what you have achieved in life(and you might well of achieved a lot) i suspect not though going on your response.

    Is this board going to be just like all the others, there are two groups of opposing groups that just will not look into the difficulties on both sides.

    As a person i am quite ok with myself, i educated myself well, can run a 2.44 marathon(so health is good), and i have a partner who i would die for. How dare you try and belittle anyone who through no fault of their own cannot own property at the present.

    And i just get the sneaking feeling you are probably the type that could well have purchased their ex council house(aftet not paying for it anyway), or maybe had an inheritance due to be an only child.

    No....he is just a d**k
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    I'd argue the opposite.

    It's the lack of mortgage funding that's worsening the housing shortage.

    Builders won't build what they can't sell. And without a massive increase in building, there can be no long term solution.

    A few years ago, we didn't have a lack of mortgage funding, and we still had a shortage of property (I'm sure I`ve heard bulls telling me that excessive funding (easy lending) did not cause HPI, it was a shortge of property).

    I agree, without a big increase in building, there will be no solution. Given that fact, there are ways to lessen the problem, and simply pumping money in and "hoping for the best" is not going to do that.
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    Quite. It was anecdotal evidence. I've linked to filmed evidence.



    One of the reasons for there being so many Polish plumbers here is that at one time, in the not to distant past, plumbers were earning more than surgeons. Sadly the (predominantly British) rip off merchants still appear regularly on consumer based TV programmes today, robbing little old ladies left, right and centre. I think your industry still has a long way to go before dealing with a foreign labour force becomes the priority issue.

    Yes i know many a rip off merchant and decent tradesmen like myself do not have anything to do with them, they dont get recommended for private work and they dont get recommended for jobs when firms are taking on , they are generally one man bands. The reason they are one man bands is because no decent tradesman will work with them.

    You never see the decent tradesman on the tv who then go and fix the work that the cowboys have done and charge next to nothing for their services do you, me and many others do this on occasions because we like you are disgusted at how some cowboys rob people blind and consequently make us all look like common thieves.

    Plumbers or any other tradesman can easily earn thousands of pounds a week and this is generally the case during the boom periods due to the fact that every tradesman knows its not going to be long before the bust arrives so they need to get some money earned now to cover themselves through the bust period.
    The majority of the people i know within the construction industry hate the boom and bust cycle and would much prefer to work at a normal steady pace earning a normal steady wage year in year out, the problem is we dont get a say in the matter, its just the old boom and bust cycle that we on the tools can do nothing about.

    (I also told you where to find filmed evidence)
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