dla and carers allowance stopped

meluvnext

She will be entitled to Income support as a top up to carers allowance if your child is 7, you can no longer receive income support, you will be in receipt of jobseekers, however if you have a child who receives DLA at atleast middle rate then you are exempt from this rule as there carer.

diolch

nannytone wrote: »

i have never been entitled to tax credits.
my children are adults and my partners wage supports us.
but no one can be ignorant about the existance of tax credits, they have yearly campaigns to make sure people renew!

also when claiming other means tested benefits such as income support, and even carers allowance............they ask about all other income to establish entitlement.
i find it impossible to believe that someone that claims 1 benefit wont be asked if the receive others!

Two points. Of course they know it exists, they have already claimed it to renew it.
Where does it say that 'if you have ....... or if your circumstances are..........'?

To say that they should seek this information is wrong, they first of all need to know what it is they are seeking.
If you wanted to buy a new car, would you think to yourself, I'd better get down to the CAB and see if there is any help that I can get to pay for it or are there any benefits that I could claim to help towards the running costs as I will be using the vehicle to take out my aged aunt to the seaside once a year.

You have to have knowledge first that sets your mind thinking, I wonder.....?

Secondly, you are assuming that because something appears in the newspaper or on the TV, the whole of the UK will be better informed and know where to access this help and from whom. Of course they ask what you are claiming as well. The answer is nothing. Do the DWP then suggest that you should be? No. They just carry on regardless.

I'll give you an example, and you are way too young to remember this. But driving licences used to be little slips of paper updated every 3 years and stuck in your licence book.
Then they came up with this new computer system in Swansea. So I am told everyone was told through the national newspapers of the time to hand their little red book in to get a new green printed one that would last until 70.

I never saw it, and it wasn't until I was pulled up with the police some 3 years later and produced my little red book to be told that it was not valid!
Did I have problems getting a new green sheet? Oh yes, by the time I applied all of the red book info held by the councils had been destroyed and there was no record anywhere of me ever passing a driving test in the UK! I had my licence but the DVLC could not now confirm with the council that it was genuine. Hence no licence - had to take my bike test and car test again!!

nannytone_2

no but if i wanted to buy a new car, i wouldnt expect the dealers to be knocking at my door, telling me the best buy........i'd expect to do my own research!

income support does ask if and which benefits you are getting,,,,,,,,,,,,so ctc would have been on that list, and if the claiment isnt aware of it, then all they neeed do is ask!

ignorance is never a defense.....not even in a court of law!
when claiming benefits the onus is on the claimant.

she has obviously seen fit to see a benefits advisor/welfare rights......... these people have been available to her all along!

she has never worked since the birth of her child 13 years ago...................before the advent of tax credits.
i have friends that were on benefits, and they were all contacted when the time came for the child to move from the mothers income support claim and onto ctc.

i think she'd notice if her money suddenly dropped dont you?

diolch

nannytone wrote: »

no but if i wanted to buy a new car, i wouldnt expect the dealers to be knocking at my door, telling me the best buy........i'd expect to do my own research!

income support does ask if and which benefits you are getting,,,,,,,,,,,,so ctc would have been on that list, and if the claiment isnt aware of it, then all they neeed do is ask!

ignorance is never a defense.....not even in a court of law!
when claiming benefits the onus is on the claimant.

she has obviously seen fit to see a benefits advisor/welfare rights......... these people have been available to her all along!

she has never worked since the birth of her child 13 years ago...................before the advent of tax credits.
i have friends that were on benefits, and they were all contacted when the time came for the child to move from the mothers income support claim and onto ctc.

i think she'd notice if her money suddenly dropped dont you?

Of course she would have seen her money drop if that is what happened, but assumed that that was normal! Why would she go looking for something that she never knew existed?

As for the car, yes like me and others we would ask the dealer if he thinks that his particular car is the best and are there any other makes better or as good. Guess what the answer would be?

Where would somebody go to do the car research you suggest? If they know nothing about cars like 1,000's don't!

As for going through the IS claim. How can you be so naive to think that the JC is going to go through a list of benefits when asking 'do you get any of these?' - 'well maybe you are entitled to this one'.
They run through the list at best or ask you to read through them and say if you get them. The answer will be a 'no I don't'. The advisor would move on to the next question. Are you actually saying that the claimant should be then asking 'no I don't, but do you think I could be?' It never happens!

With most ordinary people that haven't got a clue about benefits, just rely on being told to do something or claim something.

Take TC's, I don't know what the ins and outs are of it. I would just fill the form in and rely on HMRC to tell me. Whether the answer is right or wrong - I don't know!.

You just can't get it that there are a lot of people who, if not pointed in a particular direction, wouldn't have the faintest of a clue what benefits are available. To say that everybody should ask is, well, beyond belief.

Not everybody is as well clued up as people on this site are. I'm not, and just to move onto another similar situation - do you know everything about what charitable grants are available, from who, how to contact them, what they are for, etc???

You have to have some knowledge to think 'I wonder', then have the ability to do the research - just the same thing!

Sixer

OP: after you've managed to wade through the usual internecine bickering between posters on here, which is both unhelpful and distracting, I strongly suggest you get your daughter to see a benefits advisor - someone from CAB, or any disability charity/organisation she's in touch with.

What you have posted here isn't really clear or comprehensive enough to give you reliable advice.

Get your daughter to gather up every single piece of paperwork she has and go and see someone who will advise her about the options open to her.

dark_lady

What a disgusting way to treat sick people, sick children and carers. To top it all off some people seem to think that carers should then suddenly turn into Derek Acorah/Doris Stokes or Mystic Meg et al!

Newly_retired

If the OP rang or called into the CAB where I work she would get initial information about whan she might be able to claim, then an appointment for a full benefits check, including a calculation if she was able to provide all the relvant information needed. We could help her to find out how to claim,help her fill in forms, challenge a decision to stop a benefit - this must be done within a month of the date of the decision letter.
SO there is lots of help available from CAB and other organisations like DIAL for disability.
The basic information about benefits and tax credits is available in lots of places, newspapers, magazines, but most of all websites.
www.directgov.uk and www.adviceguide.org.uk ( CAB ) for starters.

nannytone_2

not at all.....i'm all for disabled and carers rights!

i had a severly disabled grandchild and i am disabled myself.
but the more i think about the OP, the more wrong it seems!

she has not worked for 13 years since having a disabled child ( and rightly so!)
but this was pre tax credits. she would have had a claim for income support, with the disabled child included.

she has claimed DLA and carers for the whole of this time.
so at this point she is getting income support for her and the child, plus DLA and carers. tax credits come in and it stops..........so her income is down by at least £90 a week (at the time) and she doesnt question it?

theres something seriously wrong with this OP

diolch

nannytone wrote: »

not at all.....i'm all for disabled and carers rights!

i had a severly disabled grandchild and i am disabled myself.
but the more i think about the OP, the more wrong it seems!

she has not worked for 13 years since having a disabled child ( and rightly so!)
but this was pre tax credits. she would have had a claim for income support, with the disabled child included.

she has claimed DLA and carers for the whole of this time.
so at this point she is getting income support for her and the child, plus DLA and carers. tax credits come in and it stops..........so her income is down by at least £90 a week (at the time) and she doesnt question it?

theres something seriously wrong with this OP

What you might know, and how you would go about looking for additional financial help, is one thing, others might just accept that what has happened is norm. She would have been told that her money was going down but I doubt in that same letter there was information on what she should claim instead.

Then we are back at the same place. She would have to know or think that 'this isn't right! There must be something else I could get instead'.
Not everybody is as savvy as you are with benefits, some just accept what they are told as being gospel.

How many times do we hear people signing on for JSA after not passing the ESA assessment? How many times do we hear that people don't appeal against decisions because they quite honestly don't understand that they can?

I'm fairly intelligent, but I have been caught unawares in the past with failing to claim a benefit at the right time and losing weeks and in one instance, months of money I could have had!
Don't belittle the OP for what she didn't know.

meluvnext

My daughter is 8 and has problems since birth, meaning she has been entitled to dla and I was her carer, I returned to work last year and just last month had to give notice. I claimed for IS as a tp up to carers, however I am still awaiting my first payment it should be next week as I am still in the 4 week run on of tax creds. I have received no letter etc to inform me that I will be receiving IS next week, so I phoned them up.

They told me yes I will be paid next week a grand total of £84 a fortnight.................I was shocked bearing in mind befre I returned to work I was recieving something in the region of £290 a fortnight.

Basically the lone parent adviser, nor tax credits informed me that I would continue to recieve child tax credits through the new system where as I was initially on the old system where it all got paid together from IS.

I just hope that tax credits do pay the child care payments next week or else I am high and dry with a child who has a high level of care needs and already I am having to use an arranged overdraft to buy in the food for her strict diet due to medical needs.

Worst thing I ever did was return to work when I think of it, I feel I have been totally misinformed and because I am honest and done things the correct way I have ended up out of pocket in more ways you can imagine.