Gordon Brown - Head of the IMF???

bendix

ninky wrote: »

we all say things we don't mean from time to time.

even you bendix.

(she was actually a bigoted woman).

I love you lefties. You are so sure of yourselves all the time that now you are even claiming to know whether Brown meant it or not.

Tell me . how does that work, ninky?

You never did deal with my other points about the portraits painted by several of his closest colleagues of Brown as a sexist (remember the young female minister who resigned from cabinet), a bully, a paranoid lout and someone prone to fly into violent rages if things weren't going his way.

These werent Murdoch fantasies. They were talked about in interviews and articles and books by his Labour colleagues.

Yes, a great man indeed.

lynzpower

ninky wrote: »

yes. i challenge anyone not to have come out with such comments off guard. it was a sky mic conveniently left on him and left turned on. they clearly haven't heard of 'soundman's honour'. if we broadcast all such incidents there would be very few people left in the spotlight.

Clegg didnt fare to well either with her.

Clegg talking like he was leading a playgroup he was so petrified of her.

I also agree she was bigoted. Course she was!

FTBFun

lynzpower wrote: »

Clegg didnt fare to well either with her.

Clegg talking like he was leading a playgroup he was so petrified of her.

I also agree she was bigoted. Course she was!

Transcript of the Brown-Duffy thing if anyone's interested:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7110540.ece

I expect this bit is the whole "bigot" thing:

You can’t say anything about the immigrants because you’re saying you’re – but all these eastern Europeans coming in, where are they flocking from?

ninky_2

bendix wrote: »

I love you lefties. You are so sure of yourselves all the time that now you are even claiming to know whether Brown meant it or not.

Tell me . how does that work, ninky?

fair point. i guess what i really should have said is we all say things we don't mean others to hear.

bendix

ninky wrote: »

fair point. i guess what i really should have said is we all say things we don't mean others to hear.

Nicely avoided. Again.

ninky_2

bendix wrote: »

Nicely avoided. Again.

the other stuff. rawnsley had a book to sell. some people are oversensitive. an explosive temper can be preferrable to machiavellian behaviour.

chewmylegoff

ninky wrote: »

fair point. i guess what i really should have said is we all say things we don't mean others to hear.

yeah, i would have called her worse names, quite possibly to her face, but then i'm not PM. "some awful bigoted woman" isn't a particularly nasty turn of phrase, given that it was pretty accurate.

gillian duffy should be banned from our screens - her reemergence as some kind of political assassin was pathetic and shows just how rubbish the media are these days (clearly her ambushing of clegg was set up by some journo, she didn't just randomly happen upon him). it's as bad as the BBC getting half of their news off stephen fry's twitter page. they should all be slaughtered.

ninky_2

chewmylegoff wrote: »

yeah, i would have called her worse names, quite possibly to her face, but then i'm not PM. "some awful bigoted woman" isn't a particularly nasty turn of phrase, given that it was pretty accurate.

gillian duffy should be banned from our screens - her reemergence as some kind of political assassin was pathetic and shows just how rubbish the media are these days (clearly her ambushing of clegg was set up by some journo, she didn't just randomly happen upon him). it's as bad as the BBC getting half of their news off stephen fry's twitter page. they should all be slaughtered.

no sensible person gets their news from the mainstream media these days anyway.

there are some very talented reporters at the bbc. there are also some very unimaginative and dinosaur types.

bendix

ninky wrote: »

the other stuff. rawnsley had a book to sell. some people are oversensitive. an explosive temper can be preferrable to machiavellian behaviour.

Funny - I'd completely forgotten about Rawnsley. I was focusing on Mandleson, Blair, the woman MP who accused him of patronising her so she resigned, Campbell, the junior minister who's diaries I've just read but who's name I can't recall, the Downing Street staff.

But of course you're right. They're all sensitive bunnies, bless them, and Brown was the best PM of our generation.

lemonjelly

ILW wrote: »

If Berlusconi could nominate one of his "interns" at least we would have something worth watching.

I think the fact that he "did" "nominate" an "intern" is why he's in court...;)