Hairdressing injury claim?

dickydonkin

George_Michael wrote: »

How about this.

Someone makes a cup of coffee and is carrying it into another room.
For no apparent medical reason they get a nervous twitch or a sudden cramp in their arm which causes them to drop the cup. (ie, they have an accident).
How could this have been avoided?

So is the 'accident' simply dropping a cup - or has there been an injury as a result of dropping it?

Something similar cropped up on a previous thread - and I asked as to why someone should be walking around rooms with hot cups of coffee - (this was a workplace environment).

Tea machines, kettles and microwaves should be confined to one room - and food and beverages should be confined to that room.

That would eliminate the risk of bumping into people or impacting with opening doors when carrying hot drinks

Furthermore, why do you think that all fast food outlets have sip through lids on their paper cups?

Or this (which has happened to me).
Someone putting a contact lens into their eye sneezes at just the wrong time, causing them to catch their eye a bit too hard with their fingertip.
They had no warning that they were about to sneeze so didn't have time to move their hand away from their face.
How could this have been avoided?

At the risk of being repetetive - the sneeze obviously cannot be avoided - but the sneeze has caused a distraction which resulted in the accident, although I am usually aware when a sneeze is iminent.

Both accidents and both (or similar sorts of accidents) probably happen to many people.

You are not wrong.

I've read it, and whilst it is interesting, it is only dealing with accidents and incidents which human factors have some sort of input to the cause of the accident.

Give me an example of an accident that does not involve human factor input.

In these cases, then yes, all these accidents could be avoided.
But, not all accidents have human influences, errors or omissions as one or more of the contributing factors, and these accidents are not always avoidable.

As above.

For "All accidents are avoidable" to be true, one would have to be able to see into the future.

It did not need a crystal ball to ascertain that leaving a bow door open on a ferry on the open seas would lead to a disaster.

"All accidents could have been avoided" is being able to see into the past

Unfortunately accident investigation is reactive monitoring following the event.

I concur with fluffnutter's comment:

Now, I've been reading those two statements, and even saying them out loud, for a few minutes now... but, nope, I think they amount to the same thing, semantically. If something 'could have' been avoided, then it 'is' avoidable. But language is funny like that... open to interpretation.

It is indeed!

Money_User

dpassmore wrote: »

As above.



It did not need a crystal ball to ascertain that leaving a bow door open on a ferry on the open seas would lead to a disaster.



Unfortunately accident investigation is reactive monitoring following the event.

I concur with fluffnutter's comment:



It is indeed!

Well this should be simple then. If your right find someone using Google who has never had an accident, should be simple surely if you're right.

To me the "all accidents can be avoided" lot just sound like a group of that Harry Enfield charactor from the 80's "now I don't believe you wanted to do that".



Basically you're just going through past events and then pointing out the obvious where something went wrong, anyone can do that. As I've said it's called hindsight, it's an easy thing to do, anyone can do it.

Again as I wrote before, you don't seem to know the difference between fact and reality. All you're doing is writing a theory that isn't reality which means "all accidents can be avoided" is a theory and not reality so therefore a pointless statement.

If not like I said, use Google to find me this wonderful person who's never had an accident!

George_Michael

So is the 'accident' simply dropping a cup - or has there been an injury as a result of dropping it?

Yes. An accident has occured. No one may have been injured, but it was still an accident.


Something similar cropped up on a previous thread - and I asked as to why someone should be walking around rooms with hot cups of coffee - (this was a workplace environment).

They may have simply been taking the cup of tea of coffee from the preparation area to a chair or table. (teleporters haven't been invented yet, so carrying stuff is the only option).

Tea machines, kettles and microwaves should be confined to one room - and food and beverages should be confined to that room.

Fair enough provided that the workplace concerned has enough spare space to allocate a room for this purpose.
Even if they did this, how does the drinker get the beverage from the machine or kettle to a a chair or table?


That would eliminate the risk of bumping into people or impacting with opening doors when carrying hot drinks

But it still wouldn't eliminate all possible causes of an accident. ie, those that don't involve another person or object such as a door. (as in the previous examples of a twitch, cramp or sneeze).
You still haven't said how you would prevent these from occuring.

Most, not all accidents can be avoided.
There will always be totally unforseen, totally unpredictable events which can and will cause an accident.

gordikin

So the OP opened her eyes when she knew bleach was being applied to her hair...why would you do that?

bap98189

It does surprise me that clients are not given safety glasses to wear if such as peroxide are being handled in close proximity to them. They would be mandatory in any lab or industrial setting even if the chemicals being handled were only 10% as dangerous as peroxide. Even my dentist insists I wear safety glasses when in the chair.

geri1965_2

I've never had my hair dyed in a salon but it's usually a thickish paste applied with a brush - not really of a consistency that can splash, nor should the solution be anywhere near the face. I wonder if it was made too thinly and fell from the brush as it was applied?

hcb42

even when it is thick, bits can flick off the brush etc.