my face is sliding down!

belfastgirl23

Glad to see it's not just me. I'd be prepared to pay prob £20-£30 for the right thing (and then hope I could get it on offer )

Tried the Nivea spf 15 day cream that I'd had in my gym bag this morning and it's not too bad although my skin does feel a bit dry but not as bad as it has been - it's this one http://www.nivea.co.uk/products/face-care/essential-care/essentials-dry-to-sensitive-skin/Rich-Moisturising-Day-Cream although it says on the packaging here that it's an 8 when mine is a 15! My skincare routine is getting ridiculous, used to be a quick slick of moisturiser and I was done, maybe with a bit of eyeliner if I was going crazy, now it's cream, clinique spf 40, foundation, eyemakeup, and maybe even a little swirl of powder over the top. Oh and the get rid of wrinkles stuff too

violetta

glowgirl wrote: »

Its very difficult isn't it? The Loreal one for 40+ seems ok but I feel I could do better and like you I have sensitive skin, I found an excellent one but delivery is very very difficult (only available online) so I'm going to have a go at making my own in the interest of :money:and my sanity, Nuxe are supposed to be very good but I find the price prohibitive and can never find any offers:( not even a sample, I'll be watching with interest for any suggestions:)

Hello glowgirl. What happened with that snail gel stuff you were trying last year (?from Holland & Barretts, or somewhere like that) that seemed to give such good initial results. I could never get my head past that snail slime thing to try it, but it sounded interesting.

Found the thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2442159

(I also found the tip you gave about dyeing your eyebrows a while ago an enlightenment. Until then I had not realised my eyebrows had gone greyish, or that special dye existed to improve their colour!)

glowgirl_2

violetta wrote: »

Hello glowgirl. What happened with that snail gel stuff you were trying last year (?from Holland & Barretts, or somewhere like that) that seemed to give such good initial results. I could never get my head past that snail slime thing to try it, but it sounded interesting.

Found the thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2442159

(I also found the tip you gave about dyeing your eyebrows a while ago an enlightenment. Until then I had not realised my eyebrows had gone greyish, or that special dye existed to improve their colour!)

Hi:) The snail gel was an excellent product but not moisturising enough, it was great under a decent mosituriser and soon got rid of any bumps etc and it did have a temporary tightening effect, it was when I was using the gel in conjunction with the difficult to order moisturiser that I was happiest with my skin but then two things happened, firstly I couldn't order my fav moisturiser anymore, then they stopped selling the gel in my local H&B, I still had some but my skin did its usual thing of deciding it suddenly doesn't like a product it was previously happy with :wall:I believe its politely called having intelligent skin:rotfl:but its much more like having a pain in the a*** skin:D

Bronnie

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(I also found the tip you gave about dyeing your eyebrows a while ago an enlightenment. Until then I had not realised my eyebrows had gone greyish, or that special dye existed to improve their colour!)[/QUOTE]


Really defining the eyebrows makes a massive difference to dealing with that tired look that you start to get . I did tinit my brows, but not too much and at intervals that were too long. My hair is dark and my brows haven't so much gone grey as a faded version of what thye were.

The reason I went for the Bobbi Brown session was because on all the recent photos I've got when I'm made-up for a night out, I just looked tired round the eyes. My forehead/brow has definitely dropped a bit and there is not as much space between my eyebrows and my eyelids as there was and this is contributing to this tired look. Also I had lost my way with using eye make-up other than mascara and pencil really and couldn't really work out which eyeshadow colour and whereabouts exactly I applied it would open up my eye area.


The lesson was a real enlightenment. She did a very simple clean polished make-up look. Adding definition is key to waking up the eye area it seems.

• She definied my brows with a dark brown powder ( I have retinted them darker at home and was growing them a bit thicker anyway and use Soap & Glory pencil to fill in a bit as it's just the right shade for me).
• Showed me how to apply the corrector and concealer which really opens up the eye area.
• Applied their gel eyeliner, which I can actually manage at home and gives great definition to the eyes again.
• Swept a cream shadow all over the eye area up on the brow bone, then we tried out a couple of shadows in perfect colours for my skintone just on the lid area and mascara.

She also advised me to be wary of brown shadows because a lot of them have a pinky base and obviously these are not the best tones on tired looking eyes. I had alredy workrd that out as I have a Mac brown that does nothing for me. She used a shade called "Cement" for a day look and one called "Slate" for an evening make-up


The other tip I have been given both at the Mac counter and at Clinique when applying blusher to the "falling face" is to apply it high in the apple of the cheek. It draws the attention to the eyes and away from the lower part of the face.

The results were exactly what I'd hoped for and make a massive difference in lifting my look and adding definition
(Sorry for the ramble to those of you who already know all this, it was just a revelation to me to see it properly done and gave me the confidence to replicate it at home)

izzybusy23

I too believe my face has 'fallen' and I am 39; although had the year from hell stress wise last year.

My eyes look so tired; bags under them or what I can only describe as my cheeks have dropped and left my eyes sagging?

Any help on that front would be great!

I have one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rio-60-Second-Face-Lift/dp/B0030NL7NS/ref=sr_1_1?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1303211615&sr=1-1 but haven't used it so much lately and also one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/MaxiMasque-Unique-Electrical-Beauty-Face/dp/B001GIOTX4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303211667&sr=8-1 to help the moisturiser sink in to my skin better (I used Boots P&P advanced night and day plus eye cream.

belfastgirl23

Bronnie wrote: »

Really defining the eyebrows makes a massive difference to dealing with that tired look that you start to get . I did tinit my brows, but not too much and at intervals that were too long. My hair is dark and my brows haven't so much gone grey as a faded version of what thye were.

The reason I went for the Bobbi Brown session was because on all the recent photos I've got when I'm made-up for a night out, I just looked tired round the eyes. My forehead/brow has definitely dropped a bit and there is not as much space between my eyebrows and my eyelids as there was and this is contributing to this tired look. Also I had lost my way with using eye make-up other than mascara and pencil really and couldn't really work out which eyeshadow colour and whereabouts exactly I applied it would open up my eye area.



The lesson was a real enlightenment. She did a very simple clean polished make-up look. Adding definition is key to waking up the eye area it seems.

• She definied my brows with a dark brown powder ( I have retinted them darker at home and was growing them a bit thicker anyway and use Soap & Glory pencil to fill in a bit as it's just the right shade for me).
• Showed me how to apply the corrector and concealer which really opens up the eye area.
• Applied their gel eyeliner, which I can actually manage at home and gives great definition to the eyes again.
• Swept a cream shadow all over the eye area up on the brow bone, then we tried out a couple of shadows in perfect colours for my skintone just on the lid area and mascara.

She also advised me to be wary of brown shadows because a lot of them have a pinky base and obviously these are not the best tones on tired looking eyes. I had alredy workrd that out as I have a Mac brown that does nothing for me. She used a shade called "Cement" for a day look and one called "Slate" for an evening make-up


The other tip I have been given both at the Mac counter and at Clinique when applying blusher to the "falling face" is to apply it high in the apple of the cheek. It draws the attention to the eyes and away from the lower part of the face.

The results were exactly what I'd hoped for and make a massive difference in lifting my look and adding definition
(Sorry for the ramble to those of you who already know all this, it was just a revelation to me to see it properly done and gave me the confidence to replicate it at home)

Can I ask how you came to have the lesson? this sounds really interesting!

Bronnie

They will just do them for you at the counter. I went on spec on Saturday with the intention of trying and buying the concealer. The lesson was offered to me. She did the concealer there and then and said if I could come back at 12 there would be one of the girls free to do the half hour lesson. I will go again definitely, maybe when i need a new foundation and see what they come up with, but I would probably phone and book in first. From their point of view, it worked because I bought products, but that was because I was so pleased and wanted to. There was no pressure to buy whatsoever. Did you see the link to the BB website I posted on another thread? There's lots of good how-to info there too. There was a definite understanding from the staff of the "mature" issues..........unlike when I went to Mac before Xmas :eek:

I like this page particularly, click on a photo and get before and after pics and a step by step guide to how the look was achieved. http://www.bobbibrown.co.uk/prettypowerful/gallery.tmpl

murphydog999

I went to an eye specialist last week and he said a lot of under eye puffiness, darkness, is down to alcohol and lack of hydration.

heretolearn_2

It's happening to me too. I look in the mirror and can see my aunt and mum's faces appearing (and they are in their 80s)

One thing that I've started trying is sort of lifting my scalp. I'm sure a lot of it is down to drop in muscle tone on your head/face. You know that thing kids do when they move their hairline up and down. Tightening the muscles on my scalp - so under my hair line behind my ears round to the top, does sort of give my face a bit of a lift up again. Not lifting your eyebrows. So I'm doing the weirdest looking exercises in the hope that eventually some of the effect might stay...

moneylover

Its no good girls, I'm not convinced.
Best thing is to start the facelift money pot whilst you are still in your twenties. Forty years too late for me, but I am having my eyes done and I will report back!