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what do you expect for free?
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btw how do you think nobility obtained nobility? clue: it wasn't through being a lovely person.
Are you always so angry?
Honestly, I reckon people on this forum could throw up a subject, and I could forecast exactly what your pseudo-right on attitude to it will be.
There is a very thin line between being an independent thinking and being predictably one-dimensional. I used to admire (but not agree with you) you as the former. Now I'm not so sure it's not just media worker political correctness.0 -
Are you always so angry?
Honestly, I reckon people on this forum could throw up a subject, and I could forecast exactly what your pseudo-right on attitude to it will be.
There is a very thin line between being an independent thinking and being predictably one-dimensional. I used to admire (but not agree with you) you as the former. Now I'm not so sure it's not just media worker political correctness.
well it's always good to reconsider first impressions.
do i lose the bendix star of admiration?
(now what was that about npd and idealization / devaluation cycles....)Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
the crown's payment of tax is voluntary. furthermore the queen has to rubber stamp parliamentary legislation.
the queen can refuse to pay tax in the same way that she can refuse to wield the rubber stamp. hardly realistic to argue that her tax payments are voluntary.
similarly an individual doesn't have to pay tax. you can refuse to pay (unless you're PAYE) and go to prison instead.
or if you are phillip green you can just tell the government to stick its tax and they will give you a job and the queen will knight you (presumably for having the balls to tell the taxman to get lost with his voluntary taxes).0 -
There are cases for and against the monarchy. Being a shallow individual, much of my decision depends upon whether i like them. Prince Harry's fun and has spark about him. I find William a bit of a bore, and the Jury's still out on Kate Middleton.
No ideology at work here.
kate will never be royalty. she will be royal consort. you can only be born royal. no other qualifying criteria (e.g. likeability) required.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
there is much talk on these boards of a sense of entitlement within certain sections of the population - the idea that they expect to get things for 'free'. e.g. housing, schooling, healthcare.
yet i suspect we all expect certain things free of charge (or at least paid for by taxation).
take 'green spaces' for example. or footpaths. if you were charged on entry at your local park or to go rambling on a country path would you be angry?
what if you were charged for quality of the air you breathe? or to window shop in the local precinct?
Most places I walk are privately-owned by farmers and I like the quirky 'Right to Roam' which is so British. In addition, there are country parks around here managed by the Council via volunteers; and reservoirs etc, owned by local water companies. These are not free - you can walk round them for nothing, but there are parking charges, sometimes quite heavy ones. And additionally, there are caf!s/restaurants at reservoirs. I don't think that a charge for rambling per se is required.
I expect the following to be 'free' (ie paid for by taxes):
-To be able to live safely and securely in my home, and to walk safely in the streets (ie policing and defence, road/street maintenance)
-That children should be schooled up to school-leaving age (with books, sports available etc - but not trips away)
-Medical help at point of requirement
-Waste and rubbish removed as required.
-That local infrastructure should be appropriate to the locale - roads maintained/street lights/bus shelters maintained/adequate transport available at a reasonable cost
-That my council should use council tax payers' money responsibly, and USE the money, not 'save' it for emergencies (ie in Icelandic banks). There should be a national emergency fund for unforeseen events. There is very rarely any flooding in my local area, so why was my Council saving for a rainy day.
-I expect that the manager/chief executive of my local council, should not be earning more than the Prime Minister (mine earns over £220,000). Who is this person and why does she 'deserve' this money?0 -
kate will never be royalty. she will be royal consort. you can only be born royal. no other qualifying criteria (e.g. likeability) required.
Is this true? Sarah Ferguson became 'Her Royal Highness' as did Diana. Is this not the definition of being 'Royal'?
And Princess Anne chose not to give her children the HRH, so they are not 'Royal'.0 -
okay then by your own (dubious) definitions how is a public park paternalistic? surely it is more socialist?
As explained previously, most city parks in the UK pre-date universal suffrage. In fact most pre-date male universal suffrage.
Until 1867 only 1 in 7 men could vote, even until 1918, 40% of men were disenfranchised as well as all women.
I think therefore we can safely say that the establishment of public parks in UK cities was more a paternalistic act than an example of socialism.
A little difficult to have socialism when women cannot vote wouldn't you say.
The UK national parks are a bit different, but remember that the land is normally privately owned (or by the National Trust in some parks).
Yellowstone in the USA could be described as a "socialist" national park if you wish but its very different from a UK National Park.
Then again, Yellowstone was created by stealing the land off Native Americans, but hey that's socialism for you.0
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