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  • blueboy43
    blueboy43 Posts: 575 Forumite

    -That my council should use council tax payers' money responsibly, and USE the money, not 'save' it for emergencies (ie in Icelandic banks). There should be a national emergency fund for unforeseen events. There is very rarely any flooding in my local area, so why was my Council saving for a rainy day.

    Councils don't save for a rainy day, but their income does not perfectly time with their expenditure. That is why their treasury uses short term savings accounts.

    Whether is should have been in Icelandic banks or famously the Western Isles who lost a fortune with BCCI bank in 1991 (although they had got most back by 2002), is a different matter.
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    blueboy43 wrote: »
    Then again, Yellowstone was created by stealing the land off Native Americans, but hey that's socialism for you.


    capitalists need socialism to believe they are right just as we need prisons to know that we are free.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • DexterA
    DexterA Posts: 166 Forumite
    There are reasons for and against a monarchy. I think ninky's probably ideologically against its existance. The reasons for and against are difficult to do justice on a thread.

    Whether monies paid are considered tax or not, doesn't matter to me. Whether the amount paid represents a fair contribution must be a bigger concern.
  • blueboy43 wrote: »
    A little difficult to have socialism when women cannot vote wouldn't you say..

    Well let's take the vote away from women again. Then we won't get any more socialism.

    Sorted!
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    capitalists need socialism to believe they are right just as we need prisons to know that we are free.


    Let me guess. You read that on a teeshirt in Camden?

    Uggghhhhhhhhh . . . . it's like debating with a book of slogans.

    What do YOU really think, with your own mind?
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    edited 14 April 2011 at 9:43AM
    The parks were defiantly more paternalistic than socialistic when they were established. My great great grandfather on the rich side of the family (not mine, mores the pity) donated one. Then again, the motive wasn't as much paternalistic as... capitalistic... it was more a question of allowing the peasants to have somewhere to exercise on their day off, so they didn't fall down dead inconveniently while operating the machines, so shutting down production for half an hour.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    bendix wrote: »
    Let me guess. You read that on a teeshirt in Camden?

    Uggghhhhhhhhh . . . . it's like debating with a book of slogans.

    What do YOU really think, with your own mind?


    actually i made that one up myself. if you are looking to criticize predictable thinking i think you are barking up the wrong tree. plenty far more predictable minds than mine on here.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    What do I expect for free ? Not a lot, and a ticket to see this lot in May cost me over £80......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yioWJhUJA
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    ninky wrote: »
    i was not referring to the methodology but more the result.

    So you feel the Russian revolution was of tangible benefit to the population of Eastern Europe for decades?
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,232 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    What do I expect for free - my shopping from Tesco :)

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3167752

    Warning - this thread has added 210 pages in 2 days and may be addictive!!!
    I think....
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