what do you expect for free?

ninky_2

Generali wrote: »

How would that get rid of the Queen?

because the queen doesn't have to pay tax. she "volunteers" some of it on her personal income. no inheritance tax for her however.

The_White_Horse

wouldn't the state be better of just providing everyone (not businesses) with electricity, gas and water - but no other benefits.

the state should also provide the following:

defence
police
ambulance/emergency treatment (incl emergency dentistry)
fire
court system (not necessarily prisons)
schools
road system
sewers/waste disposal

i am also a believer that the state should provide what cannot be run fairly by private business. trains cannot be run fairly by private business because there is no competition. until they allow more than one franchise on a line, I have to use one provider and that is unfair. this does not apply to buses or taxis.

the state should provide as little as possible and take as little tax as possible.

bendix

Ninky. A simple answer to a simple question: Does the queen pay tax, and - taking that answer into account - how does your comment in post 49 make sense?

Jonbvn

bendix wrote: »

Careful ninky .. your ignorance is showing. No, it's not ignorance really, is it . . . it's blind slogan-oriented belief.

So it looks like bendix must be having a street party later this month.

Hope it p*sses down:p

ninky_2

bendix wrote: »

Ninky. A simple answer to a simple question: Does the queen pay tax, and - taking that answer into account - how does your comment in post 49 make sense?

what the queen pays is akin to a charitable donation in that she is not legally obliged to pay it (unlike the rest of us). as such it is not really tax - unless you broaden the definition of tax to include monies paid on a voluntary basis.

bendix

On the contrary, Jonbvn. I'm totally ambivalent to the monarchy. I could care less about some inbred prince marrying some posh slapper.

I have taken my position on this thread simply in retaliation to yet another ninky bland platitude which was thrown in through idealogically-inspired ignorance rather than any factual basis.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the institution per se, the Monarchy is clearly a very good thing from the perspective of what it delivers to the country's coffers, both directly and indirectly.

lostinrates

ninky wrote: »

what the queen pays is akin to a charitable donation in that she is not legally obliged to pay it (unlike the rest of us). as such it is not really tax - unless you broaden the definition of tax to include monies paid on a voluntary basis.

But loads of people don't maximise tax advantages and over pay by not legally avoiding...is that donation too?

bendix

ninky wrote: »

what the queen pays is akin to a charitable donation in that she is not legally obliged to pay it (unlike the rest of us). as such it is not really tax - unless you broaden the definition of tax to include monies paid on a voluntary basis.

Incredibly weak, even by your standards. If it's a tax on income, it's a tax, whether it's mandatory or not.

In fact, couldn't one argue that her decision to pay voluntarily is a good thing and that enhances the argument she should be allowed to stay while you and your muddle-headed low tax paying kind, shuffle off to Wales to take up her place?

ninky_2

lostinrates wrote: »

But loads of people don't maximise tax advantages and over pay by not legally avoiding...is that donation too?

in some ways yes. however there is always an amount that they are legally obliged to pay. unlike the queen.

as soon as income tax is voluntary for the rest of us i will agree the queen pays tax. until then i see what she pays as charity. and charity to appease republican sentiment.

ninky_2

bendix wrote: »

Incredibly weak, even by your standards. If it's a tax on income, it's a tax, whether it's mandatory or not.

absolute rubbish. definition of tax here.....if it's not compulsory it's not a tax.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/tax.html

tax

Definition
Compulsory monetary contribution to the state's revenue, assessed and imposed by a government on the activities, enjoyment, expenditure, income, occupation, privilege, property, etc., of individuals and organizations.