Redundancy Overpayment

michelle1506

Well, in view of my salary the settlement which I was offered was totally rubbish! I was told on good authority that when there is a 'voluntary aspect' you can be paid whatever??? It's ONLY when it's compulsory redundancy that the terms ie. payment CANNOT be changed!

It's not like I would even have been able to get another job in my condition!

I can understand why the op is angry! :mad:

smerch1468 wrote: »

Many public sector departments have redundancy policies which for example in the case of the NHS will pay 1 month for each years service capped at 24 months. Now even if you are on a lower salary this is a very generous payoff. I am sure that these sorts of terms exist across the public sector, its easy to find out what they are, speak to your union. If your employer did not follow the prescribed severance package, then you would be in a position to sue the pants off them, fair play to you. But that is totally different to holding on to money which isnt yours.

For the record I was made redundant two weeks ago, and I work in the private sector. I am pleased that my company recognised ten years service with a reasonable payoff. Fortunately my firm are in good financial health, sadly a lot of private sector firms are struggling and their employees only get a statutory payment which is peanuts.

michelle1506

I hope that you get the enhanced rate too!

lady1964 wrote: »

I'm being made redundant in July and am a public sector worker and have been for only 5 years. I'm getting statutory redundancy pay but some of my colleagues will be getting enhanced. The reason for this is that when I joined, we weren't part of the county council, we were TUPE'd over 3 years ago but our original redundancy conditions remained the same. Most of my colleagues have been with the company for years and joined when it was county council, then got TUPE'd over to the new one (the one I joined), then TUPE'd back again - if you're still with me, that means that they get the enhanced redundancy while 34 of us don't.

The union is fighting for us all to get enhanced but I can honestly say that if I don't get that, then I'm happy for my colleagues who have got enhanced, most of them have young children, large mortgages and work part time so will really benefit from the better payout.

I can't believe the OP is thinking of keeping the additional £22k. If I recieved anything over what I was told I would get, I would take the advice of many other posters, either own up, or put it in as high an interest account as I could find, and when they ask for it back, give it back but keep the interest. But morally, I don't think I could even do that, no matter how I felt I was treated, the money isn't mine, never was mine and I couldn't keep it.

stuart30

michelle1506 wrote: »

Well that funny, because my 'policeman friend' didn't seem to think so...

Well before id have agreed with you..however i have first hand expirence so speak from expierence.

Its a complicated issue reclaiming monies that have been incorrectly paid.

michelle1506

Either way hopefully the op has seen sense and it is no longer an issue.

stuart30 wrote: »

Well before id have agreed with you..however i have first hand expirence so speak from expierence.

Its a complicated issue reclaiming monies that have been incorrectly paid.

tizzzr

Hang onto it for five years until the dust settles. They ask for it back just give it back. They will do nothing, remember it was their mistake. They enquire about the payslips, say you never took much notice of them, its not your watch. As long as you can pay it back you will be fine. Easy for people who receive public sector perks to say give it back, when you are being screwed on a daily basis by a multinational you will consider it differently. So much tax is wasted on pensions, consultants, lawyers, military contractors etc, employee overpayment is negligible. If you feel guilty after five years donate some to a local charity.

michelle1506

Either way I really hope the op gets another job soon! :j

Mischa8

michelle1506 wrote: »

Either way I really hope the op gets another job soon! :j

Well I hope it's not in an area which requires honesty.

I'd hate to think they were put in charge of accounts/money, or any such area which requires discretion and total honesty.

Because, from what I've read so far here, OP is far from honest. Ok, they talk about paying it back, but let's face it, from their posts so far in this thread they'd be quite happy if government/payroll/tax people just happen to *miss and forget* about £22K.

And let's not forget, this is taxpayers money here. I'd love to have £22K paid to me on a platter.

Vast majority of private sector workers I know regardless of length of service got nowhere near the amount of payoff OP got.

michelle1506

I BEG YOUR PARDON! WHY ARE YOU HAVING A POP AT ME??? I'M AS HONEST AS THE DAY IS LONG, AND I DIDN'T CONDONE WHAT THE OP WAS SUGGESTING THEY WERE GOING TO DO!


AS FOR YOU LAST PARAGRAPH I HAVE KNOWN SEVERAL PRIVATE SECTOR WORKERS TO GET MUCH BETTER PAYOUTS. YOU DON'T KNOW ME AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE FULL CIRCUMSTANCES OF MY WORK, WHAT I DO OR WHAT I EARN! YOU HAVE JUST MADE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID!!! DON'T TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT! :mad:

Mischa8 wrote: »

Well I hope it's not in an area which requires honesty.

I'd hate to think they were put in charge of accounts/money, or any such area which requires discretion and total honesty.

Because, from what I've read so far here, OP is far from honest. Ok, they talk about paying it back, but let's face it, from their posts so far in this thread they'd be quite happy if government/payroll/tax people just happen to *miss and forget* about £22K.

And let's not forget, this is taxpayers money here. I'd love to have £22K paid to me on a platter.

Vast majority of private sector workers I know regardless of length of service got nowhere near the amount of payoff OP got.

Mischa8

michelle1506 wrote: »

I BEG YOUR PARDON! WHY ARE YOU HAVING A POP AT ME??? I'M AS HONEST AS THE DAY IS LONG, AND I DIDN'T CONDONE WHAT THE OP WAS SUGGESTING THEY WERE GOING TO DO!


AS FOR YOU LAST PARAGRAPH I HAVE KNOWN SEVERAL PRIVATE SECTOR WORKERS TO GET MUCH BETTER PAYOUTS. YOU DON'T KNOW ME AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE FULL CIRCUMSTANCES OF MY WORK, WHAT I DO OR WHAT I EARN! YOU HAVE JUST MADE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID!!! DON'T TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT! :mad:

I was not having a pop at you, where does it say that in my response?

And also, you have no idea what people I know or where I have worked in private sector.

Finally putting your words in CAPS, boldening, underlining it etc - is very passive aggressive. I can only put it down to some sort of raging pregnancy hormones.

Milkshock

Mischa8 wrote: »

Well I hope it's not in an area which requires honesty.

I'd hate to think they were put in charge of accounts/money, or any such area which requires discretion and total honesty.

Because, from what I've read so far here, OP is far from honest. Ok, they talk about paying it back, but let's face it, from their posts so far in this thread they'd be quite happy if government/payroll/tax people just happen to *miss and forget* about £22K.

And let's not forget, this is taxpayers money here. I'd love to have £22K paid to me on a platter.

Vast majority of private sector workers I know regardless of length of service got nowhere near the amount of payoff OP got.

there is no question of me not giving the money back but its more about the bigger picture

its only money at the end of the day - by that i mean its all the taxpayers money - anyone who is employed in the public sector is paid for by the tax payer. and if they werent employed by the public sector they would simply receive payment in kind from another arm of the governemnt - namely the benefit system, because of course, as you no doubt think, all public sector employees are unemployable in the private sector.

dont think that my employers wouldnt have loved to have let me go with no payment at all, because they would. and i dont think they would come calling to correct an error if they had made an underpayment to me either.