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CSA1 Case closed for 5yrs but now REOPENED!

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  • AnxiousMum
    AnxiousMum Posts: 2,709 Forumite
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    ahhh I stand corrected, the smiley faces were in my original post....you just copied my entire post three times though....

    Instead of researching me though ('cos really I'm not that interesting or deserving of the attention), maybe you should go and hang out with your wife/partner, she may think you're off doing your thing again.
    To be continued you say? doubt it - won't be hanging around as the company's not that great :)
  • infant2801
    infant2801 Posts: 75 Forumite
    AnxiousMum wrote: »
    Instead of researching me though ('cos really I'm not that interesting or deserving of the attention), maybe you should go and hang out with your wife/partner, she may think you're off doing your thing again.
    To be continued you say? doubt it - won't be hanging around as the company's not that great :)

    I wasn't researching you, but was simply intrigued who this person was making such mature remarks as 'up yours' to me and advising, - they had never been on benefits.

    With all your brood including the illegitimate offspring a good £1,000 tax credits/child ben so I doubt it...

    Regarding my illegitimate child. who was produced because I was screwing about (as you phrased it) behind my partners back. That is correct and a disgrace......but I was NOT screwing about behind my legally wedded wifes'.:eek:

    If the inheritance was for your children that is absolutely fine, but you said YOU could claim it as your still 'EX's wife'..

    Therefore I'll reiterate what I said: Canadian law states Mr to maintain Mrs until she remarries (which your current partner has not done the honourable thing for you,, even after all that baby making), OR co-habits, therefore if you took it to court you would be laughed out, with his three little ones in tow.....unless you said you found them under a bush.

    You admitted what I was insinuating. you did not 'divorce' to make sure maintenance for you adult children was still in force right up to22 in Canadian Laws.

    Now daddy will not know whether to be delighted he has such a bright, academic child who is taking a 7yr medical degree or be gutted his Mrs has found a loophole to keep a hold of his wallet for another decade.:p:p

    You said : Canada does not allow deadbeats, Don't they?
    and your Ex but still husband, could do 'a runner' to Quebec, that would not stop the canadian child maintenance enforcement team hounding him!

    Please remember I am classed officially as 'non uk resident'
    in a non compliant REMO country, so think on;)

    Well I'm off in the sunshine for 10 more hours of cricket, cricket, cricket....like a true blackman:cool::cool::cool:
  • AnxiousMum
    AnxiousMum Posts: 2,709 Forumite
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    infant2801 wrote: »
    I wasn't researching you, but was simply intrigued who this person was making such mature remarks as 'up yours' to me and advising, - they had never been on benefits. Okay, so I mean 'non working' benefits.....have always worked and so received whatever benefits (£10.40 per week ctc) working families get, and child benefit just as an other person with a child.

    With all your brood including the illegitimate offspring a good £1,000 tax credits/child ben so I doubt it... Actually, I refer to my family as just that 'family'......the 'brood' would be the hen out in the garden with her little chicks :)

    Regarding my illegitimate child. who was produced because I was screwing about (as you phrased it) behind my partners back. That is correct and a disgrace......but I was NOT screwing about behind my legally wedded wifes'.:eek: either way, committed relationship - screwing around is screwing around. Further screwing HER around when you hide something like a child from her, use her and her assets to your best interest to help hide your little secret.

    If the inheritance was for your children that is absolutely fine, but you said YOU could claim it as your still 'EX's wife'.. You haven't read our separation agreement have you? haha, and if I win an employment lawsuit in Canada that is still on the go and the 110 of us get our payouts, he'll get his share of that too. He's just not fulfilling his part of the agreement, and if I wanted to enforce it, I could. Do I think it's morally right? no, I don't, but had he not fulfilled his obligation re child support, I'd have absolutely no issue with taking all that was available to me to ensure our children did not go without. Paying his child support arrears has been his less expensive option :)
    Therefore I'll reiterate what I said: Canadian law states Mr to maintain Mrs until she remarries (which your current partner has not done the honourable thing for you,, even after all that baby making), OR co-habits, therefore if you took it to court you would be laughed out, with his three little ones in tow.....unless you said you found them under a bush. That is utter bull - if I had been a stay at home mum, then yes, I could go for that, just as a mother here can go for ancillary relief with a divorce. However, as I had always worked during our marriage, so there would be no entitlement to spousal support. If I took it to court,(the inheritance), well, it wouldn't even make it to court, as it would simply be enforcing a separation agrement that is registered in the court......but hey - I'm not looking for it, I'm not out to leave him without anything, unless that is, he was like you and did all he could to avoid paying support for his children.

    You admitted what I was insinuating. you did not 'divorce' to make sure maintenance for you adult children was still in force right up to22 in Canadian Laws. Actually, the child now getting child support was only 15 or so when he stopped paying and we were doing the divorce. Unfortunately for him, that was the time he decided (well, his new partner decided) that child support would stop. So I have not completed the divorce (he could've done it in the first 12 months though except he refused to pay the £80 fee for the papers, as it was only £40 if I did it!) so now it's stalled totally till I go in and sign the affidavit to get it started again :) At that point, I knew that if we were divorced, then any child support issues would be dealt with in the Supreme Court in Canada where I would need to spend megabucks on a solicitor to represent me there, whereas, being just separated, I could represent myself in the Provincial Court. Had he not stopped supporting his children, then the divorce would've carried on as I would have had no reason to believe he would not do his part by the children.

    Now daddy will not know whether to be delighted he has such a bright, academic child who is taking a 7yr medical degree or be gutted his Mrs has found a loophole to keep a hold of his wallet for another decade.:p:p And again.....you have not read our separation agreement have you? We have always expected our children to go to university - and even though it's 'enforceable' to pay child support for a child who is in university, we both understood from the beginning that this child would need financial support. He worked part time for two years doing A levels, has a trust fund for university, has child support from his dad (which....I don't have a hold on his wallet - ALL the money goes to my son - as it is for him and his costs) and is also financially supported by me. he does volunteer work, plays on a uni sports team, and has heavy courseload - so no time for a job. I'd much rather he kept up his sports and volunteer work than a job during term time. Fortunately, his father agrees with me!

    You said : Canada does not allow deadbeats, Don't they?
    and your Ex but still husband, could do 'a runner' to Quebec, that would not stop the canadian child maintenance enforcement team hounding him!lol Well, if you knew anything about Canad, you'd realise that anybody outside of Quebec doesn't really consider Quebec as part of Canada :)

    Please remember I am classed officially as 'non uk resident'
    in a non compliant REMO country, so think on;) Yep - 'cos you're a deadbeat

    Well I'm off in the sunshine for 10 more hours of cricket, cricket, cricket....like a true blackman:cool::cool::cool:
    Ahhh yes, we're having lovely weather here too lately - so I hope you enjoyed.
  • infant2801
    infant2801 Posts: 75 Forumite
    AnxiousMum wrote: »
    Ahhh yes, we're having lovely weather here too lately - so I hope you enjoyed.

    ????....why do you think I'm elsewhere, I'm here in the UK.

    You say I used my partners assets? What assets a £40K flat??...she was moving in to my 2 acre house. That's what couples do when they get together ..........sell their 'single' homes and purchase one together.....not all about babies and benefits.... If anything I was protecting her investment as - why should the CSA be interested in our home?

    You have done absolutely ditto - but reversed....to keep hold of your ex but still husband. Making him pay til 22yrs old Canadian law, but then you go for the jugular the 7yr medical uni route!

    Just out of interest did you inform daddy no.1 his eldest child has dropped out of uni?

    So you've went through all this, not being a proper family, having illegitimate children nilly willy, when your brassic, all that shame..all those different names. explaining to your adult children "oh I'm having your little bro's but I'm still married to your daddy" - giving your ex, but conveniently still hubby all that grief.... all for what 10 to 15 grand if your lucky, over 10 to 15yrs if your lucky......

    Was is worth it really worth it? As you say your adult children are very friendly with dad so they could have worked something out themselves or made their own assumption of dad they are fully grown now.

    Yes Quebec is classed as not part of Canada by some, as you say and that is definitely the case with their 'laws' so - think on.

    How can you compare my state pension in the same category as you looking for someone to help provide for your children?

    Thats how ignorant people are when they feel threatened. My PWC's family are the most ignorant, uneducated, outspokenly racist, unemployed, benefit addicted, baby making machines you could meet who love to go on about how foreigners have taken their jobs, blah, blah and they haven't a job between them:p

    They have the same view as you toward me, as they simply cannot fathom why I'm not a toilet cleaning bus driver or a gun wielding drug dealer.....especially when they clock my stripes for THEIR Queen!
    :j
    So stop stereotyping people, the only thing I have in common with a blackman in my lifetime is my height and musclebound bod....:cool:;)
  • Infant
    Going back to your 1st post
    i would imagine (reading between the lines as the information given by you is a little jaded) that that case was closed as the agency had been advised that you were no longer resident in the uk - if that was the case regular payments would have stopped but you would have been liable for any arrears owing up to that point -
    For the case to be reopened or reinvestigated that would suggest to me that they can prove you are still resident in the uk - or have an interest in the uk - This may have taken years for them to build a case against you through investigations / compliance activity. As it states on all agency forms / leaflets it is a criminal offence to knowingly supply fals or misleading information or to fail to supply information which would affect any maintainance case so you could be facing legal charges as well as a hefty arrears bill if they can pin you down to an address in the uk since the case was closed.

    in my opinion a childs father should want to provide for their child / children regardless of how that child came into the world and i think it is just right that the case would be reopened as you are obviously still resident in the UK.

    I would suggest you contact your very helpful solicitor again to see how you can get out of your responsibilities again.
    Comp Wins 2011 : Cant wait to start listing everything:j:j:j
  • infant2801
    infant2801 Posts: 75 Forumite
    Infant
    Going back to your 1st post
    i would imagine (reading between the lines as the information given by you is a little jaded) that that case was closed as the agency had been advised that you were no longer resident in the uk - if that was the case regular payments would have stopped but you would have been liable for any arrears owing up to that point -
    For the case to be reopened or reinvestigated that would suggest to me that they can prove you are still resident in the uk - or have an interest in the uk - This may have taken years for them to build a case against you through investigations / compliance activity. As it states on all agency forms / leaflets it is a criminal offence to knowingly supply fals or misleading information or to fail to supply information which would affect any maintainance case so you could be facing legal charges as well as a hefty arrears bill if they can pin you down to an address in the uk since the case was closed.

    in my opinion a childs father should want to provide for their child / children regardless of how that child came into the world and i think it is just right that the case would be reopened as you are obviously still resident in the UK.

    I would suggest you contact your very helpful solicitor again to see how you can get out of your responsibilities again.

    Thank you very much for getting back to my original post where I was simply asking advice from anyone who had an incling, on CSA 1, but it seems they don't.:(

    I was assessed at £150.00pw and paid what was due as always...........then they wanted a cut in my house!!!:(

    Well yes you are right 'fathers' should always pay... I will once again, when they agree to £150pw which is qute sufficient, do u think Ms I!!!!!!!!!!!?

    Regarding building up a case for non- compliance - PWC has made Complaints, Appeals, Tribunals - which I never even attended.....but they have always failed.

    I am not UK res...I kept to the rules and regs...183 days per year in UK...I do have 'ties' as you call it....my 42 and 39 yr old OFFICERS at RAF Leeming...but hey they don't want bedtime stories from me....so at the end of the day I have not frauded any CSA rules...just quite simply kept to them!
  • Rebecca01
    Rebecca01 Posts: 732 Forumite
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    And what do they think of their new bronor sis? Honestly I agree with some of what say. As I also pay alot per month , woulnt dream of hiding any of it though even though ex is a millionaire. Grrrrrr, whole system sucks!!!
  • sjc3
    sjc3 Posts: 366 Forumite
    infant2801 wrote: »
    I have done my time.

    Dont bank on it, what with all your ducking, diving, lies and deception with the csa. Do you like porridge? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • infant2801
    infant2801 Posts: 75 Forumite
    sjc3 wrote: »
    Dont bank on it, what with all your ducking, diving, lies and deception with the csa. Do you like porridge? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    The quote you highhlighted was regarding work.....

    Regarding the CSA I did not break any rules..that's why my case is closed. Please read my posts accurately.

    Do you know anyone who informed the CSA, after their assessment was made that their new partner moved in?....

    No, as simply not obliged to do so.... unless I've missed something.
  • AnxiousMum
    AnxiousMum Posts: 2,709 Forumite
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    infant2801 wrote: »
    ????....why do you think I'm elsewhere, I'm here in the UK. Oh? You keep spouting about being elsewhere......

    You say I used my partners assets? What assets a £40K flat??...In your first post, you describe how you used her and her assets to get you into a bigger home, elevating your housing expenses, so you'd have to pay less in CSA. she was moving in to my 2 acre house. Unfortunately, it just happened to have you in it as well :)That's what couples do when they get together ....Yep - but they don't normally screw around on the spouse and have children they hide from them for years on end......sell their 'single' homes and purchase one together.....not all about babies and benefits.... No, to you it was about CSA payments and providing for a child that you had behind her back - you state you ONLY did it to benefit you....see you have to remember what you type! If anything I was protecting her investment as - why should the CSA be interested in our home?LOL - how funny - protecting her investment, but you couldn't give a rats a$$ about having a secret child behind her back? Priorities, priorities.....oh and a couple of morals wouldn't hurt you either :)

    You have done absolutely ditto - but reversed....to keep hold of your ex but still husband. Making him pay til 22yrs old Canadian law, but then you go for the jugular the 7yr medical uni route! I went for the jugular? No, he agreed to it in our separation agreement, and it just happens to be law in Canada and our child support and separation agreement is within Canadian jurisdiction - he can easily contest it at anytime if he so wished......

    Just out of interest did you inform daddy no.1 his eldest child has dropped out of uni? See, not enough research this time either! When eldest son went to uni, we agreed that the ex would send money direct to him, this happened for two months, and then he stopped sending it to him. Because I was honest with the FMEP in Canada, they couldn't enforce the arrears for him because we had entered into a private agreement. Part of the reason he did leave uni was financial - as his dad had withheld the trust money that I started in a bank account for the kids when they were born and has been added to throughout the years by both the ex and myself, and an inheritance that the boys received. Plus, it was the wrong course for him - so he left. And yes, the father is well aware of when he left, but hadn't paid as per the private arrangement for a year beforehand anyways.

    So you've went through all this, not being a proper family, very much a family here - obviously, you consider 'proper' including secret and hidden children.....I don't consider that proper having illegitimate children nilly willy, Nope, no surprises or accidents here - all well and truly planned when your brassic, all that shame..none whatsoever, proud as punch as each of my boys all those different names really? how many names do you think there are?. explaining to your adult children "oh I'm having your little bro's but I'm still married to your daddy" -and i'd explain that why? A brother is a brother - cannot bear the words 'half brother' 'step brother' etc.... giving your ex, but conveniently still hubby all that grief....hmmmm, yep always the woman giving the man the grief eh? all for what 10 to 15 grand if your lucky, over 10 to 15yrs if your lucky......Nope, more like 10 grand per year with just the one having cs paid for now.

    Was is worth it really worth it? Yep :)As you say your adult children are very friendly with dad so they could have worked something out themselves if you're talking financially, see above.....as soon as a private arrangement was made, ex's new partner put a stop to payments.....apparently her child from previous marriage was more important.....or made their own assumption of dad they are fully grown now. Oh, they have made their own assumptions - and while they have a good relationship with him, that's through being open with each other and communicating - they've spoken up when they feel they've had to, and I haven't known they've said boo until i receive an abusive email from the woman they refer to as, 'the b*tch that lives with my dad'

    Yes Quebec is classed as not part of Canada by some, as you say and that is definitely the case with their 'laws' so - think on. But as I say, there's not a chance in hell he'd ever move there - it would be too far from his mother's apron strings :) and he couldn't order beer :)

    How can you compare my state pension in the same category as you looking for someone to help provide for your children? Huh? I'm not looking for anybody other than myself and my ex to be responsible for providing for our children - we are the parents, it is therefore our responsibility is it not?

    Thats how ignorant people are when they feel threatened. My PWC's family are the most ignorant, uneducated, outspokenly racist, unemployed, benefit addicted, baby making machines you could meet who love to go on about how foreigners have taken their jobs, blah, blah and they haven't a job between them:p Oh we get it all the time 'f'ing foreigners come here to take our jobs......no right to teach our kids' etc. I'm wondering why you were ever associated with the PWC if you put her in the 'most ignorant, uneducated, outspokenly racist' group?

    They have the same view as you toward me, so they think you're a scumbag for evading your parental financial responsibility as well do they? as they simply cannot fathom why I'm not a toilet cleaning bus driver or a gun wielding drug dealer.....especially when they clock my stripes for THEIR Queen!
    :j
    So stop stereotyping people, haven't stereotyped you at all, all I can go by is what you have posted on this very thread, and you paint yourself to be a bit of a control freak, calling the shots on what your child should get, when there are guidelines laid out for ALL people, and no exceptions for the likes of yourself the only thing I have in common with a blackman in my lifetime is my height and musclebound bod....:cool:;) too bad you can't say you're hung like one....

    You really are a sad, sad person.
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