Car clocking, can it be stopped?

cyclonebri1

jase1 wrote: »

That's different. It is possible to look after a car rather better than a typical hire car customer does

With a good valet, my 80,000 mile Focus is very tidy.

Where you notice it is underneath -- the Focus has the usual Ford surface rust everywhere, which is apparent very quickly if the car has done a lot of miles. A low mileage/newish car typically doesn't.

No, The car rots relative to it's age not the mileage, hence the problem,;)

jase1

In which case, Fords are still rotboxes

cyclonebri1

jase1 wrote: »

In which case, Fords are still rotboxes

Always have been untill very recently, , BUT, no cars rot like that anymore, the Alfa Romeo fiasco sorted that out, ;);)

Flyboy152

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

But there lies the problem, you don't have to be naive at all.

Modern cars can and do still look and drive like new at 100k.

I've seen engines you could eat your dinner off at 100k, change the peadal rubbers and the jobs done ;)

I have been caught out once under slightly similar circumstances.
Bought 1.4 astra, just shy of 3 years old so no mot. 87k on the clock. It was nice and cheap, not new but fair enough for its age and mileage. Drove brilliantly was dead chuffed untill the next day when I found a vx sticker in the drivers door reveal. The car had been fitted with a genuine vx replacement engine at 119k miles the previous year, ie it had done 187,000miles in less than 3 years, hadn't been clocked but with only a 5 digit speedo.


And yes, I did "return" it :eek:

If you had an Astra with a five digit odometer, it wasn't that modern, was it. The seats would have been worn and saggy, the seat belts would be frayed, kinked or loose. The steering wheel lining would have been smooth and shiny, the grime build up and general appearance of the car should have given off signals as well.

Flyboy152

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

So you do agree with me???;);)


However, if there were intermediate mileage "logs" you would??, not rocket science, not even basic common sense to be honest :wall::wall::wall::wall::wall::silenced:

But there are.

cyclonebri1

Flyboy152 wrote: »

If you had an Astra with a five digit odometer, it wasn't that modern, was it. The seats would have been worn and saggy, the seat belts would be frayed, kinked or loose. The steering wheel lining would have been smooth and shiny, the grime build up and general appearance of the car should have given off signals as well.

Yes it was a while back, a J reg, but I defy you to tell the difference between a 87k and a 187k car at less than 3 years old. Motoring and motorsport has been my interest for longer than I care to mention, it caught me out, how can mrs Joanna bloggs hope to tell without some other legislation.

cyclonebri1

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But there are.

If you mean service history, you've obviously never seen a forged one, but I have. I even managed to help get a guy jailed for that a few years ago.
And don't forget the old cherries, "I can't find the service history/lost the service history/will mail it on", etc etc etc

Needs some regulation.

Flyboy152

All you have to do is confirm it with the servicing garage.

The_Loan_Ranger

If you don't get any joy from the car dealer- or think they're being dishonest, you can check with the DVLA what the mileage was at each MOT.

cyclonebri1

Flyboy152 wrote: »

All you have to do is confirm it with the servicing garage.

Easier said than done I'm afraid. Central database acess as per standard mot, has to be the way to go in the future, and don't forget not all cars have full service history, something legal is required to bring things into the modern age.;)