13 year old son in trouble for selling Pepsi at school

patchwork_cat

Bambywamby wrote: »

It doesn't put the cat amongst the pigeons with me as I don't absorb every food and drink report and live my life accordingly. I shall continue to drink juice and not lose any sleep about acid erosion. However I have seen first hand what aspartame can do.
I have seen first hand what artifical additives that are added to food can do to children with ADHD and hyperactivity (having worked with these children).
And I have read enough about the food industry to know profit is their first and last interest - therefore I shall bring my children up to eat as naturally and as organically as possible.

Well I wonder if you are saying the same when you have fatty liver, diabetes and acid erosion? My point is that natural is not always better.

asbokid

Bambywamby wrote: »

I have seen first hand what artificial additives that are added to food can do to children with ADHD and hyperactivity (having worked with these children).
And I have read enough about the food industry to know profit is their first and last interest - therefore I shall bring my children up to eat as naturally and as organically as possible.

Some retailers are being more responsible now.

On the label of an own brand soft drink containing the colourant tartrazine and the preservative sodium benzoate were the words "this product can cause behavioural disturbances in children".

daz501

corn syrup is used for the USA coca cola due to changes in the sugar market.

i still prefer diet as i don't want so much glucose in my body, but again, moderation is key if i do consume it

Derivative

daz501 wrote: »

corn syrup is used for the USA coca cola due to changes in the sugar market.

The US subsidizes corn production, making HFCS cheaper than cane sugar.
I believe corn is the most subsidized of farm crops in the US at the minute.

'Tis all about the money though. There's a reason we have both 'Zero' and 'Diet' coke and it's not to encourage "manly men" to lose weight.

asbokid

ashleypride wrote: »

Yes, these are very good points. It looking more and more likely they don't help control calorie intake, which really does reinforce the fact it's all about the cost.

It's probably inexcusable laziness but we sometimes make spaghetti bolognese using a ready-made sauce from a jar.

We tried the ultra budget brands of bolognese sauce from Tesco Value and ASDA Smart Price, but found that they are sweetened using saccharin instead of sugar.

The only reason that saccharin is used is because it's cheaper than sugar. The sauces are not even marketed as "diet" or "low calorie", so the supermarkets make no pretence about it.

Yet the amount of sugar needed to sweeten a tomato-based sauce is minimal, so this is corporate penny-pinching in the extreme.

As an aside, the cheap sauces are often so lacking in tomato pulp that corn starch has to be used to artificially thicken them to create the illusion of substance.

Maybe it's just me, but the stuff tastes foul. The after-taste from the saccharin is overpowering and its bitterness percolates through any amount of seasoning.

jellyhead

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I used to be intolerant to milk...doesn't mean its bad for everyone...

And yes if i wanted to I could probably trawl the internet to find studies which show cows milk to be harmful in x, y, z etc

There are lots. I looked into it a bit when my baby was lactose intolerant.

There are also lots of people (including my GP) who think that lactose intolerance doesn't really exist, or only when the baby is very ill and losing weight rapidly, and they think that most mothers who say their child is intolerant are usually just making it up. My GP thinks that talk of lactose intolerance is dangerous because the public know very little about nutrition and are easily swayed by panic-inducing headlines, so mums like me might be stupid enough to cut out all dairy forever but not make sure the child gets enough calcium in other ways.

Out of interest when did you outgrow your intolerance?

emz100

Hi, I just wanted to put another slant on this discussion. I think the schools have to stop the selling of products in school because it can lead to bullying as well and I am not in anyway suggesting this is what the OP's son was doing but in my situation in my sons school boys where selling cartons of drinks they bought for 50p in the shop for more in school. My son and some of his peers where then being targeted by this group to buy the drinks or else get a thump! So whilst some might say o he's doing no harm it can lead onto other things.

daz501

emz100 wrote: »

Hi, I just wanted to put another slant on this discussion. I think the schools have to stop the selling of products in school because it can lead to bullying as well and I am not in anyway suggesting this is what the OP's son was doing but in my situation in my sons school boys where selling cartons of drinks they bought for 50p in the shop for more in school. My son and some of his peers where then being targeted by this group to buy the drinks or else get a thump! So whilst some might say o he's doing no harm it can lead onto other things.

Sounds like the energy companies, only the thump is metaphorical!

ALIBOBSY

My son is at secondary and confirms it is school policy not to allow/sell fizzy drinks and sweets. However he also states there is a healthy "black market" which goes on with kids selling each other pop/sweets/chocs etc. The local newsagents do a roaring trade. To be honest my son prefers full fat fanta so no caffine.
There was a phaze where the kids were buying these energy drinks and we had to have a go at Ds to stop him drinking them. They were all hyped up at school. A few parents complained and the school contacted the 2 local shops the kids mostly go in, they both agreed to stop selling any energy drinks to school kids-do you reckon tesco or any other big retailer would agree to this???

I agree with the sentiment that processed food on the whole is best avoided, but an obsession with what is or isn't eaten by children can also be very bad. My kids have always eaten a wide and varied diet-many people have been amazed by how much they love fish and often prefer proper food to sweets and crisps. But we have no banned foods, you need to teach children moderation in all things.
My mother used to pile the plates high with food, tell us off for not clearing the plate and then have a go at us when we put on weight!!!
I vivedly remember her trying to ban chocolates and us being made even more desparate by the ban for chocolate and taking some biscuits out of the kitchen cupboard-after which she went so mental at us and called us greedy fat little theives. Ok Ok my mum was OTT but I know it is the way she taught us to think and feel about food that meant my sister and I have both struggled for years with yo yoing weight. If you ban it they will be more tempted and WILL get hold of it somewhere.

At home we have pop, water, milk,juices and squash available most of the time. the kids tend to go for milk water or squash (I find they will have squash over pop if it is made up in a jug ready to pour). The forbbiden fruit thing is so true.

To the OP not a big deal, the school have there rules he stretched them a bit like all kids do, they confiscated the cans and presumably told him not to sell them at school again then gave them back at the end of the day. As long as they did not overreact or give him an extra punishment I reckon that is fair.

ali x

BTW all my kids are fit and healthy and all have healthy weights, there were all breastfed and never had a baby food jar between them so maybe a good start helps as well?

shellsuit

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

My son is at secondary and confirms it is school policy not to allow/sell fizzy drinks and sweets. However he also states there is a healthy "black market" which goes on with kids selling each other pop/sweets/chocs etc. The local newsagents do a roaring trade. To be honest my son prefers full fat fanta so no caffine.
There was a phaze where the kids were buying these energy drinks and we had to have a go at Ds to stop him drinking them. They were all hyped up at school. A few parents complained and the school contacted the 2 local shops the kids mostly go in, they both agreed to stop selling any energy drinks to school kids-do you reckon tesco or any other big retailer would agree to this???

I agree with the sentiment that processed food on the whole is best avoided, but an obsession with what is or isn't eaten by children can also be very bad. My kids have always eaten a wide and varied diet-many people have been amazed by how much they love fish and often prefer proper food to sweets and crisps. But we have no banned foods, you need to teach children moderation in all things.
My mother used to pile the plates high with food, tell us off for not clearing the plate and then have a go at us when we put on weight!!!
I vivedly remember her trying to ban chocolates and us being made even more desparate by the ban for chocolate and taking some biscuits out of the kitchen cupboard-after which she went so mental at us and called us greedy fat little theives. Ok Ok my mum was OTT but I know it is the way she taught us to think and feel about food that meant my sister and I have both struggled for years with yo yoing weight. If you ban it they will be more tempted and WILL get hold of it somewhere.

At home we have pop, water, milk,juices and squash available most of the time. the kids tend to go for milk water or squash (I find they will have squash over pop if it is made up in a jug ready to pour). The forbbiden fruit thing is so true.

To the OP not a big deal, the school have there rules he stretched them a bit like all kids do, they confiscated the cans and presumably told him not to sell them at school again then gave them back at the end of the day. As long as they did not overreact or give him an extra punishment I reckon that is fair.

ali x

BTW all my kids are fit and healthy and all have healthy weights, there were all breastfed and never had a baby food jar between them so maybe a good start helps as well?

My kids are fit and healthy, are of a normal weight, and all were bottle fed and had baby jars now and again, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?