Fruadulent claim!!!

Shermanator123

Hi, I need your advice I am on CSA 1 and I have just had a phone call off CSA as a new claim has been put in so I am now being phased onto CS2. The thing is the new claim that has been put in is by the NRP partner who he is STILL with and still LIVES with is there anything I can do?

bdt1

I would imagine you will need very strong proof and evidence that they are co-habiting, this may be difficult, but you can appeal the change of circs/re-assessment on grounds they are still togther and submit your evidence then ask CSA to investigate further, you could ask for Criminal Compliance to be involved but think they be stowed off at moment like all CSA Depts!!

Suppose maybe Council tax, electoral roll, plus pics etc would be evidence or maybe 192, or even facebook postings...................But are 100% sure they not together, they may be living undre same roof yet not be together as a couple, I have heard of this before, where CSA have asked to see separate rooms, wardrobes etc, it seems silly to me but it has been known - whoknows this is CSA we talking about

Shermanator123

They own the house joint mortgage they have 2 kids one 4 yrs old the other 1 months old both are NRP children they live in a 3 bedroom house and both kids have there own room so if there not "together" NRP wont have his own room, however he did lie to the CSA and tried to tell them they weren't together criminal compliance got involved and he admitted they were as his partner was pregnant then.

speedster

all the other "claimant" has to do is close the case after a few weeks and say that they've got back together again.

it's a common tactic to get moved onto csa2 and always has been.

bearing in mind, csa1 was supposed to be moved to csa2 about 5 years ago anyway, it's just the crappy computer could never manage it.

if his payments go down because of it, you're lucky they didn't go down 5 years ago when cases were supposed to be phased. swings and roundabouts really.

Shermanator123

Well Speedster it would be swings and roundabouts if he ever paid but he didnt so I dont agree with that comment plus i have only just started recieving some money off him

gratefulforhelp_2

I should have thought it would cost the NRPP more to pretend this and carry it through than it saved them in CS? I would keep poking the CSA until they do something about finding out the truth of it.

Maybe they are really splitting up?

Shermanator123

Thanks, No they havent we have mutual friends and live in a small village so we find out everything plus my daughter was suppose to see NRP this weekend but hes away with his partner for the weekend

bdt1

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............Good luck ,but in all honesty if the NRPP opens then closes case in few weeks to get you shifted to CS2 and lower payments, then does it really matter what they doing, as they will go ahead anyway, and the CSA are hopeless, so if it were me, and I were receiving even something then I wouldn't bother. Poison feeding poison is an ugly trait, I have learnt to be dignified patient and get the last laugh!!! Yours may be a wait but don't stoop to their level, or drag yourself down in the process

bdt1

Shermanator123 wrote: »

They own the house joint mortgage they have 2 kids one 4 yrs old the other 1 months old both are NRP children they live in a 3 bedroom house and both kids have there own room so if there not "together" NRP wont have his own room, however he did lie to the CSA and tried to tell them they weren't together criminal compliance got involved and he admitted they were as his partner was pregnant then.

Just observation, but surely it's very rare that a 1 month old baby has it's own room? Ours slept in Moses basket/cot in our room for several months so we could keep eye on baby and also get to baby easily for feeding, so NRP may have his own room

Shermanator123

Sorry should have explained better, the room is decorated for the newborn with cot in there no bed as my daughter cant stay there as there is no spare bed for her

missbunbury

Hmmm, this is a difficult one. If they are, as suggested, doing this just to reduce their CSA payments then I can see how you would feel aggrieved, but whether there's anything you can do is another question. I would recommend you try writing to the CSA to tell them what you think is going on and ask them whether the case could be referred to criminal compliance again, but I am not sure whether they would do this without evidence and I can't really think what evidence there would be. On the other hand, if they are still claiming jointly for tax credits or anything, the CSA might be able to use this as evidence that they are in fact still a couple? I would be wondering whether they had also applied for single parent benefits fraudulently, in which case you could report them to DWP for this if you felt so inclined, but I'm not sure whether it would affect the CSA stuff.