Rent payment for university students living at home

Kizzaix

I'm not sure people are understanding what i'm asking.

I'm currently in college, therefore the council cannot ask for rent from me as i'm in level 3 (equiv to a-level) full time education.
My mum is retired and gets her rent paid for her.

When I start university, I will remain at home and get maintenance grants and loans.
Will this, in the eyes of the government, be classed as me earning and will my mum's housing benefit be stopped ( and therefore I be expected to pay it due to me being the one who is 'earning')

Kizzaix

Jowo wrote: »

Are you on the tenancy agreement as the joint tenant?

If you aren't a tenant, there's no liability for you to pay the social housing landlord (the council) any rent.

If your mother is the sole named tenant with her council property then any arrangement you make to contribute to household expenses is a personal family matter, paid for out of your own income if you do not qualify for any benefits.

This was my understanding of it also, however we received a letter today saying that 2 days after I leave college, I am expected to pay £60 rent a week..whether I am unemployed or employed.

So i'm wondering if the same rule will apply when I am at university.

Jowo_2

Kizzaix wrote: »

I'm not sure people are understanding what i'm asking.

I'm currently in college, therefore the council cannot ask for rent from me as i'm in level 3 (equiv to a-level) full time education.
My mum is retired and gets her rent paid for her.

When I start university, I will remain at home and get maintenance grants and loans.
Will this, in the eyes of the government, be classed as me earning and will my mum's housing benefit be stopped ( and therefore I be expected to pay it due to me being the one who is 'earning')

You are considered a non-dependent so ordinarily any renumerative work (earned employment income) would reduce her housing benefit by a small amount depending on your earnings.

However, as you will be a full time student, you will be ignored, and there will no impact on her housing benefit unless it’s the summer vacation and you find full time work.

Only full time summer earnings will be taken into account.

Jowo_2

Kizzaix wrote: »

This was my understanding of it also, however we received a letter today saying that 2 days after I leave college, I am expected to pay £60 rent a week..whether I am unemployed or employed.

So i'm wondering if the same rule will apply when I am at university.

Now did the letter actually say that you must pay the council £60 per week directly or was it addressed to your mother saying that she would face a non-dependent deduction of her HB if you were in renumerative employment? What was the actual wording of it?

A person under 25 will only receive around £50 per week JSA and I hardly think the council will make a deduction of £60 per week from their parents housing benefit. Something simply doesn't add up in your account of what is happening. I assume your mother will lose her child tax credits and child benefit when your college course ends - are you factoring this loss in, too?

For example, on this table, it indicates that the non-dependent has to earn nearly £20,000 per annum for the tenant receiving HB to have a deduction of £47 per week from their HB and since they'd be netting £250 per week, it's quite a trivial contribution.

Did your letter demonstrate the level of income for RENUMERATIVE employment with the level of deductions?

http://www2.tunbridgewells.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=561

EDIT - by the way, I've found a table that clearly shows how non-dependent deductions are made for HB claimants. The sum you cite (£60) is for those in employment who gross more than £387 per week in income! Therefore you must have misunderstood the letter or there are other reasons why your mother's HB is declining. A person earning £387 per week gross will net £300 a week after tax/NI deductions. Paying £60 to the main tenant for the loss of their HB is a bargain.

http://www.merton.gov.uk/living/benefits/hb-ctb/benefitsclaim/nondependant.htm

Kizzaix

Jowo wrote: »

Now did the letter actually say that you must pay the council £60 per week directly or was it addressed to your mother saying that she would face a non-dependent deduction of her HB if you were in renumerative employment? What was the actual wording of it?

The letter states that because I have finished college, £60 rent a week will need to paid. It doesn't necessarily say that it must be paid by me, but no way can my mum afford to pay that out of her pension. So it would be me. Also, because up until that point she gets it paid, it's quite obvious that they're implying i will need to pay it out of my 'wages' despite not having a job. I'll need to go onto unemployment benefit, against my wishes.

Kizzaix

Jowo wrote: »

Now did the letter actually say that you must pay the council £60 per week directly or was it addressed to your mother saying that she would face a non-dependent deduction of her HB if you were in renumerative employment? What was the actual wording of it?

A person under 25 will only receive around £50 per week JSA and I hardly think the council will make a deduction of £60 per week from their parents housing benefit.

For example, on this table, it indicates that the non-dependent has to earn nearly £20,000 per annum for the tenant receiving HB to have a deduction of £47 per week from their HB and since they'd be netting £250 per week, it's quite a trivial contribution.

Did your letter demonstrate the level of income for RENUMERATIVE employment with the level of deductions?

http://www2.tunbridgewells.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=561

There's no examples of levels of income. They are simply assuming 2 days after leaving college, I will be earning £60 a week.

My mum receives no child tax credits for me.

viktory

Kizzaix wrote: »

I'll need to go onto unemployment benefit, against my wishes.

You'll not be able to claim JSA while doing a full time University course.

Kizzaix

viktory wrote: »

You'll not be able to claim JSA while doing a full time University course.

I'm talking about from June-September before I start my full time university course. We've been told by CAB that I will need to do this.

dmg24

Kizzaix wrote: »

I'm talking about from June-September before I start my full time university course. We've been told by CAB that I will need to do this.

You could get a job instead?

Kizzaix

dmg24 wrote: »

You could get a job instead?

If you read my post properly, i'm not saying I'm not going to get a job.

I finish my course 25th June.
They will expect me to pay £60 a week from the 27th June.

If you can find me a full time job in 2 days, be my guest. It's unlikely.