Corrupt HR Departments?

jc808

Emmzi wrote: »

it depends what you think the role of HR is.

if you believe it is to ensure all employees are treated equitably, you are wrong - argueabley, that's the union role.

It's to keep the company running smoothly staff wise... hopefully by legal means.. and sometimes manager choose to ignore legal advice and the poor HR bod can only do as much as they can to influence.

Disagreed, a good HR teams role is to ensure compliance rtc, and ensure all employees are treated fairly in regard to pay/ job descriptions/ interviews/ disciplinaries and with due process. Therefore --theretically-- all employees are treated equitably*


*not necessarily the case however

DVardysShadow

sho_me_da_money wrote: »

Let the conversations begin....

I will start off by saying that I was disciplined for something that almost got me fired and learned that another employee did the exact same thing and did not even get a verbal.

I had a bad year (or that is the way it has been painted out to be) - sicknesses, absences (all approved and Fit note provided for). I also had an investigation take place that resulted in no action (I was proven innocent) yet the notes of the investigation were placed on my file and the same notes were discussed and played a contributing factor to a reverse a promotion - why?

Yet, my colleague was caught and sniffing drugs at a work function and was given a verbal? - Ermmmmmmmmmm - !!!!!!? This is a violation of the procedure and considered Gross Misconduct. The procedure outlines all rules must be followed at work and business functions.

I think I could use Race Discrimination but not going to go there because I don't believe i need to stoop to a false level.

Any of you have corrupt HR people? Very quick to play Chief Inspectors when an employee f***s up but the same rules are avoided when they fail to follow protocol themselves. Rather, they find ways to sweep things under the rug.

When you are not treated as well as someone else, there are 2 ways it can be put right

• Treat you better
• Treat the other person more harshly

In those cases where the other person would be treated more harshly as a result of a fairness agenda, it is better just to marvel at their good luck.

There is no mileage in this one for you.

sho_me_da_money

iamana1ias wrote: »

You should have appealed the warning at the time. I doubt you can do it after the warning has expired!!

I understand that but if you know someone is doing something dodgy in the company, surely there is a way to correct it?

Im not even bothered about the FWW, money or any benefit to be honest. Someone needs to address the malpractice. If HR cannot get away with not practicing what they preach.

I think the only thing I can do is inform the CEO via an anonymous letter.

Googlewhacker

sho_me_da_money wrote: »

I understand that but if you know someone is doing something dodgy in the company, surely there is a way to correct it?

Im not even bothered about the FWW, money or any benefit to be honest. Someone needs to address the malpractice. If HR cannot get away with not practicing what they preach.

I think the only thing I can do is inform the CEO via an anonymous letter.

LOL an anonymous letter will do nothing, if its that anonymous then you won't be able to put your point across succinctly and if you can then it won't be anonymous because they'll know its you (whther you mention your name or not!)

Ihatecameron

I just want these knobs to acknowledge what they did was wrong, an apology and perhaps a completely squeaky clean record.

Way to late for that, the time to take issue was when you received the FWW.

I think the only thing I can do is inform the CEO via an anonymous letter.

I think you are digging a big hole for yourself, unless everyone has FWW's, the CEO could find out who sent the anon letter by process of elimination.

Googlewhacker

Uncertain wrote: »

As opposed to what exactly - an amateur!

Sorry but this phrase makes me laugh or cringe every time I see it!

A famous judge once said that, as far as he was concerned, there were only two professions. One was the law and everybody knows what the other one is!

More seriously though, you never seem to see people who work in the true "professions" using this piece of nonsense. "Hello, I'm a professional doctor"!

I also read a comment that HR was one of those occupations you ended up in if you weren't quite up to doing something better. How many children wake up one day and say "Mummy, when I grow up I want to be a HR Professional"? Precious few I imagine.

Jumped up clerks giving themselves airs and graces in my view - and that is when I'm feeling charitable!

On other days I tend to think they are doing HR as they are not talented enough to work in the judge's second profession.

:D

Remind me to link this back to you when you go on about peoples opinions not being important......

Sambucus_Nigra

jc808 wrote: »

Disagreed, a good HR teams role is to ensure compliance rtc, and ensure all employees are treated fairly in regard to pay/ job descriptions/ interviews/ disciplinaries and with due process. Therefore --theretically-- all employees are treated equitably*


*not necessarily the case however

No.

A good HR team keeps the company out of court. End of.

sho_me_da_money

Ihatecameron wrote: »

Way to late for that, the time to take issue was when you received the FWW.




I think you are digging a big hole for yourself, unless everyone has FWW's, the CEO could find out who sent the anon letter by process of elimination.

I received the FWW and set a precedence for this "crime".

This person committed the same offence about 9 months later. There was no way I could argue my case beforehand as 1) the warning had expired and 2) I only learned about this 2 weeks ago.

HR simply ignored to apply the same punishment to a white female HR employee for breaching the same rule as set out by the disciplinary procedure.

With regards to sending a letter to the CEO - I realise that I will get nowhere by not submitting my name however, I am not alerting him for personal gain. I am informing him of the corruption that goes on within our region. Whether he does something about it or not is beyond me but I can't just sit on the sideline and let this go on. If HR are here to keep us in line, then who and how is someone supposed to keep them in line?

Oh and comeon - do you really think I will tell him details about FWW etc in the letter? I will get the point across without going into detail or name-dropping.

I am fighting for the principal people.....

Human Resources are put in that position to follow a code of conduct that applies to everyone including themselves. If they cannot treat their department the same as every other department, they should not be allowed to work in that area.

jc808

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

No.

A good HR team keeps the company out of court. End of.

fundamentally, yes - by at least creating the illusion of fairness/ due process/ standards etc.

sho_me_da_money

http://hrriskybusiness.com/2010/10/13/sweet-new-deal-for-whistleblowers-on-foreign-corrupt-practices/