is it normal for another GP to fill DLA form in

sardine

deeplyblue wrote: »

I have been assuming that sardine was talking about applying for DLA. I know that the WCA for ESA is much worse - and I'd have further advice if that were the case. However, even the non-compulsory but usual medical with a real doctor is a non-trivial exercise.

Yes, I was talking about DLA.

I already receive ESA and am in the Support Group, based on one of the 'special reasons'. So that particular matter has been resolved to my satisfaction.

I receive no other benefits or allowances.

sardine

This may or may not be relevant.
I understand Attendance Allowance is the same as DLA, apart from the mobility element. If that is the case, I have learned this afternoon of a guy who is 66, has just been given it (the lower rate whatever that is). Talking to him he tells me that it was easy. He suffered two spells in a 6 month period of nearly passing out after he got out of the lounge chair in the evening, too fast (trying to get to the toilet and back during the adverts!)

He does have slightly high blood pressure which is moderately medicated.

Thinking no more about it (and learned his lesson not to bound around!), he saw his GP for his normal 6 month BP test. He told his GP what had happened, and his GP told him to claim Attendance Allowance.
He did, and was awarded the benefit within a week. He popped into the surgery for some more medication and whilst in there he saw the GP who asked him if he had heard from the DWP. Yes, he said, Good!, I told them all about you.

So it seems that a lot of it falls to how much the GP is willing to support a patient. Some GP's will and some won't!

sunnyone

sardine wrote: »

This may or may not be relevant.
I understand Attendance Allowance is the same as DLA, apart from the mobility element. If that is the case, I have learned this afternoon of a guy who is 66, has just been given it (the lower rate whatever that is). Talking to him he tells me that it was easy. He suffered two spells in a 6 month period of nearly passing out after he got out of the lounge chair in the evening, too fast (trying to get to the toilet and back during the adverts!)

He does have slightly high blood pressure which is moderately medicated.

Thinking no more about it (and learned his lesson not to bound around!), he saw his GP for his normal 6 month BP test. He told his GP what had happened, and his GP told him to claim Attendance Allowance.
He did, and was awarded the benefit within a week. He popped into the surgery for some more medication and whilst in there he saw the GP who asked him if he had heard from the DWP. Yes, he said, Good!, I told them all about you.

So it seems that a lot of it falls to how much the GP is willing to support a patient. Some GP's will and some won't!

Totally wrong, its against the law to be awarded DLA mobility after the age of 65 and it cant happen, you cant even have the lowest level mobility increased to the highest level post 65 but you already know that andy and you are just wanting to start an argument.

I win by the way, I said that this spell of good behaviour in this latest reincarnation would brake today or tomorrow and I have been proved correct as usual.

Can you still not learn to change the tale now and then because to be frank its very boring now.

Errata

Read the post again, the bloke got the lower rate of AA.

sunnyone

Errata wrote: »

Read the post again, the bloke got the lower rate of AA.

sorry I was reading a previous thread and confused the threads, Im also trying yet another access aid for me to use my laptop and its not much cop!

sardine

sunnyone wrote: »

Totally wrong, its against the law to be awarded DLA mobility after the age of 65 and it cant happen, you cant even have the lowest level mobility increased to the highest level post 65 but you already know that andy and you are just wanting to start an argument.

I win by the way, I said that this spell of good behaviour in this latest reincarnation would brake today or tomorrow and I have been proved correct as usual.

Can you still not learn to change the tale now and then because to be frank its very boring now.

Thankyou,

????? I never said it was DLA mobility. Where do you get that from?

As for the rest of the post, I am totally baffled!!

Have you accidentally quoted me but should be replying to another poster?

sardine

sunnyone wrote: »

sorry I was reading a previous thread and confused the threads, Im also trying yet another access aid for me to use my laptop and its not much cop!

Thankyou for clarifying that for me. You had me confused for a while there.

Now now, a good workman should never blame his tools!!

I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK

!!!!!! wrote: »

I'd like to know who goes to a GP practice that is small enough for a doctor to know a single patient well enough to remember things that are not in the notes?

What may be more worrying is pertinent facts that the doctor 'remembers' but are not in the notes for other medical staff to access.

I think I'm very fortunate here. I see the same doctor each month and he does remember things that haven't been documented.

I missed an appointment with him last Monday and he actually phoned me to see what was wrong as I've never missed one before in the 10 years I have been seeing him, my father died the day before and it just went out of my head.

I really have been very lucky with my doctor as he has been the one to fill in any forms from DLA, they are automatically passed to him as he is the only one I see with my disability. I would absolutely hate to have to change practises or doctor.

deeplyblue

sardine wrote: »

This may or may not be relevant.
I understand Attendance Allowance is the same as DLA, apart from the mobility element. If that is the case, I have learned this afternoon of a guy who is 66, has just been given it (the lower rate whatever that is).

...

So it seems that a lot of it falls to how much the GP is willing to support a patient. Some GP's will and some won't!

As to AA, I can't speak. It may be that there was actually more to that bloke's medical situation than he said, but which his GP knew about. Maybe the GP had been telling him that for months, and the funny turns were enough to make him take the plunge. You can't say without a lot more knowledge of the circs.

Another situation: apply for DLA - get 40-page form which asks you things like, "How long does it take you to use the toilet?" "How many times a day do you use the toilet?" "How many times a day do you need help standing up?" "Do you need help drinking?" "What aids do you use?" "What help do you need?" "How many times a day do you need it?" "How long does it take?"

(Try this as an exercise. Suppose that, for some reason, you were suddenly unable to lift a mug or a glass as far as your mouth. Suppose that you were spending a day at home, and liked to drink - water or fruit juice, tea or coffee, beer or a glass of wine. Perhaps you just like to have a glass of water beside you. Now try answering those questions - remember you're not just accounting for exactly how you would manage a cup of tea in the morning, but all your liquid intake, all day.)

You fill in the form. You wait until they tell you a doctor is coming to visit. The doctor arrives and goes through an almost identical check list and pulls long faces as he doesn't believe a word of it It takes an hour and a half.. Later, after you have launched an appeal you see the doctor's report. In "any other observations" you see "Has lots of nice furniture." (I kid you not) Quite what that has to do with the medical Lord knows.

And, on the strength of that furniture, they turn you down. So you go to appeal and on and bloody on.

As I said, I don't know how easy it is/was to get Attendance Allowance, but DLA isn't a soft touch - even when you have a supportive GP, and not all GPs are supportive. Some of them will think you're swinging the lead or just fancy being ill as a way out behaving like an adult. Some of them are probably just cross because they've been asked to fill in another form about you.

And now they're proposing to make everyone go through this all over again - even the ones with progressive illness - which means that however bad they were when they were originally awarded DLA they're a lot worse now. Cost effective? Hardly. This is making a point of being nasty to someone who most people think should be hammered anyway.

when_will_it_end

hi all

i recieved a thick brown envelope to day from DLA saying it had gone to tribrunal bit confused as i never asked for it to go is this an automatic thing now?

i was obviously refused after sending in evidence to support my mobility issues from various people

they say that i dissagree because the information should have been obtained from my doctor, but the descision maker accepts the evidence from the other doctor who i have never seen, they say it is an acurate assesment, i do not understand how they can say this without a second opinion from my doctor and on top of the reports from other people saying i have mobility issues

they have accepted that i do have pain whilst walking but because i use aids then im ok, i accept that using aids enables me to do more than if i did not have them but what if i did not have them? do they not take this in to account?

they can not take cooking shopping and cleaning in to account as it does not count as attention to personal care, is eating, having toiletries from the shops and living in a reasonably clean home ok? or am i expected not to have these basics?

it says i can cook for one person (although i have a DD) it says i can stand long enough to manage to cook and use pans, ok so i can maybe heat soup or beans if i am on a good day but i can not lift the pan how do i eat/ out of the pan at the cooker?

alos i can cook a main meal if all the ingredients are available, how do i get the ingrgredients if i cant get up and out to the shops

says i can drive 20 mins on a good day, which i can manage just, but driving and walking are two different things

help please, thanks