Are Ebay benefit people cheats?

RayWolfe

Just to remind you of what you said!

Crazychik wrote:

if your'e worried about the Benefits office asking to see bank statements of monies etc - ask your ebay buyers to pay via postal order, these cant be traced like cheques. Or just simply open up a seperate bank account to allow cheque payments to clear in that, the Benefits office does not need to know about this
How many people claim benefits do car boots in order to earn a few extra bucks. Do they declare that? I dont think so.....

So what did you mean? Something else?
Sorry but I only understand English.

RayWolfe

peter999 wrote:

Also we still live in a FREE society & a discussion may cover many areas.
peter999

But not mine?

peter999

RayWolfe wrote:

But not mine?

RayWolfe wrote:

....and this website should not be used to enable or encourage cheating.

You choose to see discussing people on benefits selling some items on ebay as "encouraging cheating".

People on benefits are living normal lives & don't need you censoring any discussion on their lives, what they may or may not do, just because you see it as encouraging cheating.

If you give us an overview on your life & family, how you make money, what you day to day, we can make some comments on the rights & wrongs.

Or maybe it's just too easy to bash "people on benefits".

peter999

Crazychik

Im sure some where along the line - we've all been tempted to earn a few bob cash in hand, whether people are on benefits or actually working, paying taxes and not declaring the extra money. What about, car boots? Im sure we've all done them, and what about selling personal items in the local paper, thats still raising money to some effect.

I claim housing benefit, Im a single person with 2 kids, who works 20hrs per wk. I have to provide statements to the council every so often of my income, never in my time have I been queried ref paypal payments (incoming or outgoing), I always keep proof of purchases or sales - if they ask, they can see. But as fo the postal orders, they cant be traced.So they dont need to know in my opinion. (and that is my opinion) Im not saying go out and commit fraud, Its each and everyone's CHOICE at the end of the day.

I buy items from ebay for the home, kids and myself, I also sell our un-wanted things on ebay,(clothes mainly) in order to help pay for the new things - logical, no harm in that. Just the same as a car boot.

RayWolfe

peter999 wrote:

Or maybe it's just too easy to bash "people on benefits".
peter999

Peter, for goodness sake, keep this in perspective! I was commenting on Crazychick's invitation to cover up what was happening by:

Originally Posted by Crazychik
if your'e worried about the Benefits office asking to see bank statements of monies etc - ask your ebay buyers to pay via postal order, these cant be traced like cheques. Or just simply open up a seperate bank account to allow cheque payments to clear in that, the Benefits office does not need to know about this

How you manage to translate my sugestion that fraud is not a good thing into benifit claimant bashing, gawd alone knows.

However, I've made my point and you are entitled to think whatever you want.

Fran

***Boardguide comment***

Please bear in mind the be nice to other moneysavers rule.

janaltus

new_leaf wrote:

I understand that any money made should be declared to the Benefits Agency but do you really think that people on IB and JSA actually report themselves?

I think some people on benefits, IB for example, are entitled to earn up to 15 pounds a week without it affecting their benefit. (Is that right, Ted?)

Personally, I can hardly succeed in BUYING anything on eBay, never mind trying to sell something!

raq

I agree.

There are so many people out there up to all sorts. Claiming whilst working and so forth. When my sister signed on last week one bloke jumped out of a building van run into the j.centre , signed on and jumped back in. He's working colleague sat in the drivers seat waiting for him. This was in full view of the j.centre. No where's the sense in that..

it is personal items and not bulk just like what the other comments have been. Don't worry about it

Morglin

Technically, you are supposed to declare ANY extra income to the DWP (if you're on a means tested benefit), or anything that involves "work ability" (if you're on IB or any sickness payment), including car boots, EBay etc.,

But, as long as it's just getting rid of your own household junk, then I cannot see them having a problem with it.

If you're EBaying as a "cottage industry", then you need to notify them.

Tax evasion or benefit fraud - they are both against the law!

Lin

ferdyb

If you are buying stuff to sell, on Ebay or anywhere else, whilst drawing benefits or not; This means you are operating a business. You may or may not make a profit, which has been pointed out. But, in the normal way of running a business, you will not know until you have been running it for a year, whether or not you have made a profit at all. Such things as costs of computer and internet use, postage, several others.
What procedures do the DWP have in place to account for all this ?
So the technical requirement to declare any extra income must include the freedom to deduct from that income any cost of sales. If cost of selling exceeds income, you have made a loss and of course DWP will pay you extra money to offset your mis-fortune.
No, only joking, probably not.