Another pm from firebird20

AlexisV

firebird20 wrote: »

Your evidence for this list and its order?

Anecdotal. Unless you want to list some revenue figures...

trisontana

While he's at it, it would be interesting to see what percentage of "appeals" UKCPS allow, especially those from disabled drivers who make simple mistakes, such as initially forgetting to display their blue badge , or accidentally dropping it into the footwell. Going on past experience, I bet they can be counted on the fingers of one hand (if that).

firebird20

anecdotal adj 1 consisting of or in the nature of anecdotes. 2 said of information, etc: based on chance accounts rather than first hand knowledge or experience (Chambers)
or you may prefer Wikipedia:-
(1) Evidence in the form of an anecdote or hearsay is called anecdotal if there is doubt about its veracity; the evidence itself is considered untrustworthy.
(2) Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion.
In both cases the conclusion is unreliable; it may not be untrue, but it doesn't follow from the "evidence".

birkee

No way can I follow coupon-mad's logic and reasoning, so it makes contributions here pointless.
He reminds me of the Hyde Park soapbox orators. Make as much noise as possible, and try and browbeat everybody into seeing it their way.

trisontana

Come on firebird20, please answer my questions. After all you are an "Ethical Company" and should be proud of the way it operates, and its dealings with the public.

Edit.

I see you are still logged on Firebird20. Too cowardly to answer my questions are you? And you wonder why your "ethical company" is held in such contempt by us on here. How can you sleep at night, you can't have have any conscience at all.

Hadeon

Hey firebird20,

While your still hanging around this thread, would you care to clarify the following 'little gems' included on your threatograms I, & others will have received:

1. As the owner/driver/hirer of this vehicle you are required to pay......blah....blah....blah.

NB - What is this, perm any one from three?

2. Due to legal procedures it is difficult for our company to present verbal evidence before a court.

NB - Thinking about it, I suppose it would be difficult for you to present evidence you don't have.

3. Due to data protection we regret there is no public access to the registered office.

NB - !!!!!! is this garbage!!!? I can understand public access being denied, but only on practical or maybe health & safety grounds given the fact that you state your registered office address as being a PO Box Number.
Can't be very much room left for visitors in a mail sorting-office pigeon-hole that you're occupying.
Ps - is there room in there with you for Perky as well?

Alexis27

firebird20 wrote: »

anecdotal adj 1 consisting of or in the nature of anecdotes. 2 said of information, etc: based on chance accounts rather than first hand knowledge or experience (Chambers)
or you may prefer Wikipedia:-
(1) Evidence in the form of an anecdote or hearsay is called anecdotal if there is doubt about its veracity; the evidence itself is considered untrustworthy.
(2) Evidence, which may itself be true and verifiable, used to deduce a conclusion which does not follow from it, usually by generalizing from an insufficient amount of evidence. For example "my grandfather smoked like a chimney and died healthy in a car crash at the age of 99" does not disprove the proposition that "smoking markedly increases the probability of cancer and heart disease at a relatively early age". In this case, the evidence may itself be true, but does not warrant the conclusion.
In both cases the conclusion is unreliable; it may not be untrue, but it doesn't follow from the "evidence".

Oh dear. I think you've missed the point big time :rotfl:

taffy056

birkee wrote: »

No way can I follow coupon-mad's logic and reasoning, so it makes contributions here pointless.
He reminds me of the Hyde Park soapbox orators. Make as much noise as possible, and try and browbeat everybody into seeing it their way.

You should know coupon is a SHE, and if you actually contributed in this section you will realise how much effort and time SHE puts into helping people!

Actually your contribution here happens to pointless and ill thought out! And if you had any inkling at all of the subject you would realise what a cowboy industry the PPCs are, and one of the biggest are UKCPS who actually target disabled drivers for abuse !

Fruit of the pudding

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2632653

trisontana

Hadeon wrote: »

Hey firebird20,

While your still hanging around this thread, would you care to clarify the following 'little gems' included on your threatograms I, & others will have received:

1. As the owner/driver/hirer of this vehicle you are required to pay......blah....blah....blah.

NB - What is this, perm any one from three?

2. Due to legal procedures it is difficult for our company to present verbal evidence before a court.

NB - Thinking about it, I suppose it would be difficult for you to present evidence you don't have.

3. Due to data protection we regret there is no public access to the registered office.

NB - !!!!!! is this garbage!!!? I can understand public access being denied, but only on practical or maybe health & safety grounds given the fact that you state your registered office address as being a PO Box Number.
Can't be very much room left for visitors in a mail sorting-office pigeon-hole that you're occupying.

Perhaps they've been reading the Idiot's Guide To Legal Gobbledygook

Coupon-mad

Love the way the PPC troll had to look up 'anecdotal'! :T:rotfl: