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  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    edited 17 March 2011 at 3:58PM
    ska_lover wrote: »
    I have just shown this thread to a friend, and she was as flabbergasted as I am, but pointed out that the almost 2.5k a month does not include the other things she will get for free such as:-

    Council tax
    Free school dinners
    Free opticians
    Free dentists
    Free prescriptions

    A lone parent with 2 children can expect £200 disposable income per week composed of approx £65 income support, £34 child support and £98 child tax credits, then council tax/housing benefit paid.

    A person working full time for the minimum wage would earn approx £210 per week after tax.

    Because the OP has 3 children, and there are carer/disability allowances, this is approx £400 per week disposable income (plus £30 EMA for the eldest), plus CT, HB and other things. It is the disability related benefits that skew the figures but as indicated previously, there aren't many people who would want to swap their lives for the OPs despite 'earning' in benefits more than she could probably earn in employment (approximately 32k per annum in IS, DLA, CA, CTC, CB, CTB, HB which is the equivalent of a taxable salary of approx 39k).
  • ska_lover
    ska_lover Posts: 3,773 Forumite
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    edited 17 March 2011 at 4:55PM
    DX2 wrote: »
    The point that you were trying to make was utter disgust, let's not pretend otherwise. How dare the OP so get all these disability related benefits whilst you have to work.

    Oh get over yourself already! You cannot put words into someones mouth or twist things, my statements are there in black and white for all to see.

    If you feel disgusted then at least have the balls to say so, don't try and say it through me.

    I feel you are stalking me, on this entire forum. It's getting a little creepy now. Every comment I make anywhere, you reply to! The above quote of yours, was not even aimed at you, but you appear to not be able to resist answering every time I speak.

    As you obvioulsy follow me around a lot on here, you will know that if I am disgusted by something, I have no problem saying.
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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    ska_lover wrote: »
    Oh get over yourself already! You cannot put words into someones mouth or twist things, my statements are there in black and white for all to see.

    If you feel disgusted then at least have the balls to say so, don't try and say it through me.

    I feel you are stalking me, on this entire forum. It's getting a little creepy now. Every comment I make anywhere, you reply to! The above quote of yours, was not even aimed at you, but you appear to not be able to resist answering every time I speak.

    As you obvioulsy follow me around a lot on here, you will know that if I am disgusted by something, I have no problem saying.
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    Best laugh I have had all day, stalking you don't flatter yourself love you aren't that interesting for the few posts we have debated in.

    The whole point of a forum is for other's to express their opinion, not for you to choose who replies to your post's ;)

    Talk about a drama queen.
    jesus just too funny. :rotfl:
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • AnxiousMum
    AnxiousMum Posts: 2,709 Forumite
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    ska_lover wrote: »
    This isnt a dig at anyone, but.................Jesus Christ! Benefits are well paid arent they! almost 2.5k a month to NOT work? Its not the people who are on benefits that are living in poverty thats for sure.

    I am completely stunned that people on benefits are living in comparitive luxury to some who are working. wow

    Are you for real? £2.5K per month is nowhere near compensation for having a disabled child and all the sacrifices that go along with that. Would you rather that the OP was out working for minimum wage, and the taxpayer had to pay in the region of £10K per month for the care of the child (round the clock care would take at least 4 people into full time hours). I'm quite certain the OP would rather be out working for minimum wage and have a child that doesn't need the care that is required.

    If you ever find yourself in need of benefits due to a disability, or a family member who needs caring for - be sure and notify the advisers that you are refusing the benefits available to you - as you think they are too much.

    I don't think any taxpayer begrudges legitimate cases being paid a fair amount in order to live each month. Legitimate cases should in fact get more as far as I'm concerned, and get rid of the scammers off of the system.
  • sardine
    sardine Posts: 131 Forumite
    edited 17 March 2011 at 5:51PM
    What we should also remember is not just those that ARE receiving benefits to that extent due to disabilities, but those that DO have genuine disabilities that cause mobility problems and create care needs, yet are refused them on the grounds that the forms aren't completed properly or the GP evidence isn't up to scratch due to a failure to explain everything to the GP.
    Many people now are being refused DLA claims due to the fact that not all of the i's are dotted or the t's crossed in the right way. Likewise there are many people with genuine needs that do NOT see their GP's enough to build up a dossier.

    Those are the ones that I feel for. Many become disheartened and give up there and then and certainly could not face an inquisition at a Tribunal. Where is the caring society for them? Or are they just seen as collateral damage?

    If, and as I expect, the answer to be 'get professional help', then people are living in cloud cuckoo land. That sort of free professional help is now dwindling to a trickle capable of only helping but a few.
  • Jowo wrote: »
    A lone parent with 2 children can expect £200 disposable income per week composed of approx £65 income support, £34 child support and £98 child tax credits, then council tax/housing benefit paid.

    A person working full time for the minimum wage would earn approx £210 per week after tax.

    Because the OP has 3 children, and there are carer/disability allowances, this is approx £400 per week disposable income (plus £30 EMA for the eldest), plus CT, HB and other things. It is the disability related benefits that skew the figures but as indicated previously, there aren't many people who would want to swap their lives for the OPs despite 'earning' in benefits more than she could probably earn in employment (approximately 32k per annum in IS, DLA, CA, CTC, CB, CTB, HB which is the equivalent of a taxable salary of approx 39k).

    She's not a lone parent. Her partner is currently away with mental health problems and he is hoping to move back in.
  • ska_lover
    ska_lover Posts: 3,773 Forumite
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    edited 17 March 2011 at 6:46PM
    DX2 wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    Best laugh I have had all day, stalking you don't flatter yourself love you aren't that interesting for the few posts we have debated in.

    The whole point of a forum is for other's to express their opinion, not for you to choose who replies to your post's ;)

    Talk about a drama queen.
    jesus just too funny. :rotfl:

    I'm not that interesting, yet you can't seem to stop yourself. How strange.
    You do insist on keep calling me ''love'', please don't - it sounds so common!
    The opposite of what you know...is also true
  • ska_lover
    ska_lover Posts: 3,773 Forumite
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    edited 17 March 2011 at 7:11PM
    AnxiousMum wrote: »
    Are you for real? Yes thank you £2.5K per month is nowhere near compensation its not compensation for having a disabled child and all the sacrifices that go along with that no one doubts that. Would you rather that the OP was out working for minimum wage, and the taxpayer had to pay in the region of £10K per month for the care of the child (round the clock care would take at least 4 people into full time hours) I wouldn't rather anything. I'm quite certain the OP would rather be out working for minimum wage and have a child that doesn't need the care that is required.Yes so am I

    If you ever find yourself in need of benefits due to a disability, or a family member who needs caring for - be sure and notify the advisers that you are refusing the benefits available to you - as you think they are too much. No, i think I would claim every penny I can after working all my life to fund benefits thanks!

    I don't think any taxpayer begrudges legitimate cases being paid a fair amount in order to live each month I am sure you are correct. Legitimate cases should in fact get more as far as I'm concernedand where is this extra money coming from? , and get rid of the scammers off of the system How would we tell though, people who are ill, to those that are not? .
    Are you DX2 with a different user name?


    If you read the first line of my original post you will see it states 'this is not a dig at anyone' but you are all quick to jump on the bandwagon to defend your benefits. Please stop attempting to twist every thing I type.
    The opposite of what you know...is also true
  • AnxiousMum
    AnxiousMum Posts: 2,709 Forumite
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    ska_lover wrote: »
    Are you DX2 with a different user name?


    If you read the first line of my original post you will see it states 'this is not a dig at anyone' but you are all quick to jump on the bandwagon to defend your benefits. Please stop attempting to twist every thing I type.

    Didn't have to twist a thing ska...you commented on the apparently large amount of benefits being received by someone. No, I'm not DX2....I'm me :)

    As for your 'defending your benefits' comment - to this point in my life, I've been fortunate to not have to claim any. However, at age 46, there's alot of years ahead of me, that should I ever need to claim them, I'm glad I'm living in a country that will ensure I have what I need to get by. So I guess it's 'your benefits' I'm defending too - as you never know, you may have to resort to them yourself sometime in your life.
  • ska_lover
    ska_lover Posts: 3,773 Forumite
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    AnxiousMum wrote: »
    Didn't have to twist a thing ska...you commented on the apparently large amount of benefits being received by someone. No, I'm not DX2....I'm me :)

    .


    Yes, yes i did make a comment about the large sum of benefits.

    Yawn...........
    The opposite of what you know...is also true
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