Motorway driving

Flyboy152

Strider590 wrote: »

No you don't need to.....
Just ask any member of the IAM (institute of advanced motorists).

The reasoning behind it, is that on a motorway you've lane 1, 2 and 3.... Lane one is the normal driving lane, the other 2 are overtaking lanes.

A driver should never be overtaking on the inside (unless traffic is near stationary), therefore you have the right of way to move to the left at any time when it's safe to do so. If someone pulls out to overtake, it's common sense that they're going to move back at some point once the manoeuvre is complete.
Why indicate when it's obvious what your going to do?

When moving right, you should ALWAYS indicate because you've moving into a lane with faster flowing traffic.

Finally, indicating should NEVER be done out of habit.... Your missing the observation and the decision making part of the process and risking an accident.

Is that all part of the "stealth" overtaking manoeuvre? :wall:

lucylucky

Strider590 wrote: »

No you don't need to.....
Just ask any member of the IAM (institute of advanced motorists).

The reasoning behind it, is that on a motorway you've lane 1, 2 and 3.... Lane one is the normal driving lane, the other 2 are overtaking lanes.

A driver should never be overtaking on the inside (unless traffic is near stationary), therefore you have the right of way to move to the left at any time when it's safe to do so. If someone pulls out to overtake, it's common sense that they're going to move back at some point once the manoeuvre is complete.
Why indicate when it's obvious what your going to do?

When moving right, you should ALWAYS indicate because you've moving into a lane with faster flowing traffic.

Finally, indicating should NEVER be done out of habit.... Your missing the observation and the decision making part of the process and risking an accident.

The traffic doesn't need to be anywhere near stationary for it to be okay to overtake in the inside.

Strider590

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Is that all part of the "stealth" overtaking manoeuvre? :wall:

Different circumstances all together....

lucylucky wrote: »

The traffic doesn't need to be anywhere near stationary for it to be okay to overtake in the inside.

I know this..... I was trying to avoid quoting paragraphs from the highway code when it doesn't really add anything to the topic of this thread.

The most relevant part is "If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left"

The operative word being "queue", free flowing traffic is not a "queue".

johnfarquhar74

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Then driver training has changed since my day.

Not sure when your day was but I passed my car driving test in '92. It was stressed to me by my driving instructor NOT to indicate when changing lanes from 2 to 1 for reasons described above. Before anyone queries the motorway driving as a learner, it was after I passed, my parents paid for me to get some motorway experience under my belt.
I have since carried out further training(IAM), sat my bike test and been on safety/observational runs with Lothian & Borders finest as part of the 'Bikesafe' scheme.
At no point was I pulled up for NOT indicating from lane 2 to 1. Not saying whether this is correct or not, just my experience!

Mark_Hewitt

I noticed in France many drivers leave their indicator on (on their case the left indicator) the whole time they are overtaking.

DirectDebacle

The only time it is necessary to indicate on a motorway is if you intend to inconvenience someone.

lucylucky

Strider590 wrote: »

Different circumstances all together....




I know this..... I was trying to avoid quoting paragraphs from the highway code when it doesn't really add anything to the topic of this thread.

The most relevant part is "If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left"

The operative word being "queue", free flowing traffic is not a "queue".

I didn't see the word queue in the Highway code (section 268)

almillar

Lane 1 is the one you're meant to be in. Treat it the same as overtaking on a normal 2 lane road, indicate to move out, not to move back in, that's where you're meant to be, as others have said.
BUT (and there's always a but, these arguments come up because people try to have solid rules, whereas driving on the road is not a solid situation) I can recall doing a test to become a driving examiner, and was on a dual carraigeway with a 40 limit, not a motorway. I overtook, and indicated, then found myself behind something slow in the outside lane (may have pulled out, can't remember), so I had to move in slightly sooner than expected (no cutting up!!) - as I was moving back into lane 1, and I was under test, I took the decision not to indicate. After the test the examiner was of the opinion that I should have indicated 'because it would have benefited the person behind' (the one who had just been overtaken). I agree with this - generally, you don't indicate to 'move back in' on any type of road, unless you think you need to give out that information, which is usually in a 'traffic' situation.

Strider590

lucylucky wrote: »

I didn't see the word queue in the Highway code (section 268)

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314

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lucylucky

Strider590 wrote: »

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314

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Thanks for that

As this thread was (initially) about motorways then I was referring to that.

"Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake."


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069862