Football is causing damage and a road safety problem

Flyboy152

It shall be the duty of every employer to conduct his undertaking in such a way as to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, that persons not in his employment who may be affected thereby are not thereby exposed to risks to their health or safety

Aah, didn't see the, "that persons not in his employment"

jazzy

ohreally wrote: »

Consider asking for the RA using FOI if necessary.

Would the RA request be made to my LA or the club itself?

ohreally

jazzy wrote: »

Would the RA request be made to my LA or the club itself?

The LA. The acual club wouldn't come under the jurisdication of an foi disclosure request.

jazzy

ohreally wrote: »

I'd suggest your LA may be fobbing you off somewhat.

Consider asking for the RA using FOI if necessary.

I have now made a request for the RA to my LA, so we will see what happens.

ohreally
You seem to be well up with the regulations, so another question. Due to the club being a privately run one am I correct in assuming the my LA can only advise on inadequate risk assessments? And that's why they made the following statement:

"that a risk assessment has been made in accordance with our requirements. It remains for them (the club) to act on this assessment."

atrixblue.-MFR-. mentioned this on one of the messages

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

not sure if this has been said sorry if it has,
if the park is club owned maintained by the club etc ( our RFC has two grounds one for training and one for match games and is club owned) then the council can only advise them of what safety measures should be inplace by assesing the "risk" to the areas surrounding the grounds..

Mupette

I just watched the video, and yes whilst it will be annoying to have that just accross the road with rogue balls flying around....

I think you need to look at this from another point of view to get a fence higher... As long as you get the fence raised is the point here.

Moving traffic, cars swerving to miss the ball, that motorbike, (thought he was going to be hit for a second)

Has there been any accidents caused by rogue balls yet that you can record and take to the council (not nescessary filmed)

jazzy

Mupette wrote: »

I just watched the video, and yes whilst it will be annoying to have that just accross the road with rogue balls flying around....

I think you need to look at this from another point of view to get a fence higher... As long as you get the fence raised is the point here.

Moving traffic, cars swerving to miss the ball, that motorbike, (thought he was going to be hit for a second)

Has there been any accidents caused by rogue balls yet that you can record and take to the council (not nescessary filmed)

That is what I am requesting, for a higher fence to be constructed. Unfortunately the club appears to be very reluctant to do this.
I am not aware of any accidents occurring, but I am sure that it is just a matter of time.

Flyboy152

Mupette wrote: »

I just watched the video, and yes whilst it will be annoying to have that just accross the road with rogue balls flying around....

I think you need to look at this from another point of view to get a fence higher... As long as you get the fence raised is the point here.

Moving traffic, cars swerving to miss the ball, that motorbike, (thought he was going to be hit for a second)

Has there been any accidents caused by rogue balls yet that you can record and take to the council (not nescessary filmed)

I don't think that waiting for someone to be seriously injured or killed, is worth not raising the fence, don't you.

Mupette

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I don't think that waiting for someone to be seriously injured or killed, is worth not raising the fence, don't you.

i think you know what i mean.

rather than wanting a higher fence because of rouge balls hitting the OP's car, the greater thing here is there is a risk of seriously injury or someone getting killed

ohreally

jazzy wrote: »

IDue to the club being a privately run one am I correct in assuming the my LA can only advise on inadequate risk assessments? And that's why they made the following statement:

"that a risk assessment has been made in accordance with our requirements. It remains for them (the club) to act on this assessment."

"our requirements". The RA, to be compliant, should be "suitable and sufficient", they may take the view that following an assessment they concluded there were no significant risks or the existing control measures are satisfactory.

Wait and see what they come back with - my gut feeling is it will be more excuses.

jazzy

I received a reply from my local authority for my request of a copy of the club's RA.

They stated

"Dear Sir
As previously advised, the Council has assessed that the risk of an
accident as a result of a stray football is low"

This information does not cover my request for the actual RA information, so I have made another request.
However I am disappointed on the LA's view that this is a low risk, in other words they are not interested and they are not going to do anything, and are allowing the club to operate with insufficient risk controls.